Wolfe Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Originally posted by Redwolf: Can somebody post the BMP number for street tiles in CMBB and CMAK so that I can install my test texture? (Sorry, CMMODs is down and I can't get the lists there)They start at 674, I believe. - Chris 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 613 is the straight paved road bmp. Also used on bridges. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 All rightness, people, here is how to do the test, lets try to cons up some test cases. Download the following zipfile. Unpack. It will overwrite your prefs file (so that we all run at 1024x768) and BMP 674 and it has a new scenario. Unpack, then </font>start CMAK</font>Editor</font>Load anisotropic-test.cmg</font>go into map->preview</font>make screenshot and post here</font> Repeat for differen AA/AF settings and drivers. http://redwolf.dyndns.org/tmp/cmak-anisotropic-test.zip [ February 21, 2005, 08:41 PM: Message edited by: Redwolf ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Dir with screenshots: http://redwolf.dyndns.org/tmp/ll/cmak-anitests/ All with 66.93 on a 6800 Ultra. No AA or AF, full quality otherwise AA but no AF: AA and AF: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 ARGH! Removing the NVidia drivers also removed the network drivers for my onboard card for NVidia chipset ethernet! I HATE Windows. How can people accept bull**** like this? EDIT: not only that, while it still sees my PCI ethernet card it won't let me confire TCP/IP on it. Clicking on the reported as installed, active and enabled PCI card driver says I need to install a network card first. EDIT: so now I manually copied the mainboard drivers over. However, I don't have the video drivers installed, so I am at 640x480. One of the mainboard driver dialog boxes has a knob outside of 640x480, and no way to move it. I have to abort the partial installation and repeat after I have the video drivers installed. Windoze... [ February 21, 2005, 05:58 PM: Message edited by: Redwolf ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 New 67.66 drivers, AA and AF turned on. As you see, no change toward the old drivers. And this after the trouble. The change (with deinstallation of the old drivers) also wiped out all my application profiles. This never happens on Linux. Oh well, you knew I would say that, did you? [ February 21, 2005, 06:37 PM: Message edited by: Redwolf ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Added options: - force mipmaps, trilinear - conformant texture clamp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Ouch. That's wrong on many different levels. The NVidia drivers aren't even applying Aniso, are they? Might it be disabled for 16-bit games? BTW, you didn't take a pick with just aniso (no AA). Some pics from my Radeon 8500LE (they're jpgs, but close enough to get the idea). No Aniso, no AA 16x Aniso, no AA 16x Aniso, 2xAA 16x Aniso, 4xAA no Aniso, 4xAA 2xAA is playable at 1024x768, but is pushing it at any higher res (I play at 1280x960). 4xAA is unusable even at 1024. - Chris 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 What amazed me most is how different the textures are drawn that are long the view axis and those going left to right. Mind you it is 100% the same textures, just drawn, on the same floor (2D lane), at a different angle. [ February 21, 2005, 08:23 PM: Message edited by: Redwolf ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Also note: in my very first two screeshots at the top of this page, how AA (not AF) clearly applies to the epilipses in front, but has few if any effect on the red lines running from the front to the rear, at the bigger distances, both for NVidia and ATI. Only your 4GRSS does anything about that particular distortion. I want GF 4 and GF FX 5x00 results! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Here is a shot with 4x AA and 4x AF to see whether maybe the 4x AA is better in doing anything about that. Nope, and notice how there are even holes ripped into some of the red epilipses: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Last one for today. Back to highest AA and AF, but turn on all optimizations (faster but worse image quality): - trilinear opt - anisotropic mip filter opt - anisotropic sample opt All on but there is no degration in image quality. Same picture pixel-by-pixel if I get that correctly. Something is odd here, CM is doing something that the NVidia drivers do not expect and larger parts of this cards are just disabled. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I wish I could post screen shots. I'm definitely getting a noticeable improvement when I go from zero AF to the max 16 AF with the 67.66 drivers, as long as FSAA is enabled(8xS)too. I'm leaving all "optimizatons" off. FRAPS tells me I'm taking a 20% framerate hit when I go to AF 16x. Treeburst155 out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 If you mail the shots to me I can post them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Redwolf, Screenshots on the way. I can tell AF from non-AF shots. I can't tell 66.93 from 67.66 however. Treeburst155 out. [ February 23, 2005, 08:54 PM: Message edited by: Treeburst155 ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Bumpinsky. Would anybody else like to contribute screenshots of the test setup? I would really like to see GeForce 4 and 5 series cards and I'm too busy to exchange my card. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 Bump because there is another thread on filtering going on. Hopefully some more people can post screenshots of their filtering settings 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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