Bloody Bill Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Hey gents, I was simply wondering if the Normandy and Italy titles would be updated to be more like CMFB with tank riders and other updates? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Generally bug fixes and improvements do get moved over. I think Steve is on record though as saying that tank riders are a maybe and not a certainty just because of the amount of work. We are just going to have to wait and see I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Aye, Tank Riders need a lot of additional work that's not usually covered by patch-level upgrades. Theoretically, the "common code base" should make porting the work across pretty simple, but there's a limit, apparently, to the commonality, and there would be a lorra lorra testin' needed to make sure nothing else got borked in the process. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Bill Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 I understand the work issue. With an update that would bring CMBN up to CMFB I would happily pay for. I am not asking for free goodies although the Battle Pack was wonderful. I would just like to see it done. Combat Mission is my escape and I always am looking for more and more and more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMac Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) As Ian & Womble have mentioned, I'm guessing something like 'Tank Rider's would be more of an Engine Upgrade (From Game Engine 3 to Game Engine 4...or somefink like that), then a Patch. Joe Edited May 23, 2016 by JoMc67 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, JoMc67 said: As Ian & Womble have mentioned, I'm guessing something like 'Tank Rider's would be more of an Engine Upgrade (From Game Engine 3 to Game Engine 4...or somefink like that), then a Patch. The engine upgrade would probably just be a copy/paste job of the Red Thunder code, but then each and every tank model would have to be manually customised to include the spots where infantry would attach, and that process would take some time to do and test. Edited May 24, 2016 by Bulletpoint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Bulletpoint said: The engine upgrade would probably just be a copy/paste job of the Red Thunder code, but then each and every tank model would have to be manually customised to include the spots where infantry would attach, and that process would take some time to do and test. Many of the models (and animations) would be "cut and pasteable" (at least as much as the codebase is) from RT and FB, too. But it's not so much the remaining model work as the integrating it with the existing "subtly divergent" codebases. If that were not the case, updates to previous families to include modifications to the engine made for FB (which remain applicable to the older families) would hardly be delayed at all. It's the checking that it does what it's meant to that's a big issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Bill Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 So would it be an update that people would want? Are the developers interested in doing something like this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Bloody Bill said: So would it be an update that people would want? Are the developers interested in doing something like this? I'm personally not that interested in having tank riders, as I would usually dismount them at the start of the battle anyway. In Normandy at least. But the rest of the fixes and changes they did in the newest CMFB patch are very interesting, and I hope they quickly make their way to CMBN. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I think pretty much everything that's relevant except tank riders is fodder for a "bringing the family up to current" patch for BN, FI and RT v3 engine installs. Patch as in "cost free", I think. It's almost a requirement to make all the code bases as close as possible for when v4 arrives. It'd be a nightmare of version control, and the differences would have to be addressed at that time anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kch001 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Has it been confirmed that the other CM games will be patched up to same standard as CMFB? I cant seem to find any definite info on this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 1 hour ago, kch001 said: Has it been confirmed that the other CM games will be patched up to same standard as CMFB? I cant seem to find any definite info on this. No specific announcement as yet, but since that is BFC policy I'd rate it as a reasonable expectation. And BTW, it will be an upgrade, not a patch, meaning that it won't be free. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kch001 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Michael Emrys said: No specific announcement as yet, but since that is BFC policy I'd rate it as a reasonable expectation. And BTW, it will be an upgrade, not a patch, meaning that it won't be free. Michael I am perfectly happy to pay for the upgrade if it means that the series remains alive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Michael Emrys said: No specific announcement as yet, but since that is BFC policy I'd rate it as a reasonable expectation. And BTW, it will be an upgrade, not a patch, meaning that it won't be free. Michael Ah, CMBF is using engine version 3 just like the others. So, I think the next update for other titles would be a patch - at least until the next engine version comes along. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 57 minutes ago, IanL said: Ah, CMBF is using engine version 3 just like the others. Are you sure about that? How about RT? Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Well you are making me doubt myself but pretty sure I play most games most days and I am pretty sure they all say Engine version 3 (except CMFI but on the PC 1.2 is using engine version 3). Isn't CMRT where engine version 3 was introduced? (that part I am not so sure about). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Well, version numbers in CM can be pretty confusing. I'm glad to hear that BFC is working on a system to rationalize them; it sure needs that. Anyway, when I checked RT before posting, it said v1.03, but just exactly what that means in terms of the present discussion I don't know and won't try to guess. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 LOL yes it can be confusing but the new standard is to list the game version 1.03 in this case and put the engine version underneath which for CMRT is engine version 3. That certainly helps. The only game that does not list the version like that is CMFI on the PC but I am sure that will change once they get around to the next update to CMFI. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 That's assuming, of course, that you're upgraded to engine v3. There won't be any patches to any engine v1 or v2 installs. v3 came in with RT and has been used for BS and FB. v2 came in with CMFI v1 was BN. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Yes, quite right. I was referring to the latest version. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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