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You only had two choices on where to put the AT gun so it was always going to be open to a planned hit. The situation would have been avoided if the Germans had better choice on deployment zones. But as it's mirrored both sides are affected. As for delaying turns in game X so you learn for game Y the only advantage is you learn the map, and see what works. Not really an issue as this scenario has been available for years so you can load it up at will to play test the best approach. What should have happened was that new unreleased scenarios created with decent set up zones. This however would require effort that was obviously not available. So it is what it is. A long time ago I ran one of the ROW tournaments and we were able to get scenario designers to create specific ones for the tournament. Easier then with the old scenario design tools before CM2 upped the skill levels required.

Just seen him say on BBC news this morning that he never said that and that he has not flip flopped. Apparently journalist misunderstood him which is possible.

Hmmmm this didn't age too well. I will await my morning coffee to see where the clown show goes next. (BTW the UK clown show is also in full swing...) Bill give me some hope that the numpties have a plan... Please.... Night Night

Yep a bit of thought and a few tweaks on where and how the Germans can set up would be good. Also if anyone did a pre-planned hit on the US set up zone that would be a bit bad and we will never know if that is how they scored the points for a victory - very cheesey and could have been prevented with a bit more thought... Meanwhile I am travelling and have an inherited laptop with an AMD and Integral Intel card and I managed a few turns but the loading has broken. I have tried to force the AMD video to be used but it fails. The 100% load works, I get to the password screen and it then just churns away and does not load. I waited 20+ minutes yesterday and just gave up. So I am hoping when I get back I can use my desktop to finish the game in the allotted time. @BFCElvisIn FOG2 Tourneys you are on a chess clock and if the game is not completed you get penalised if you don't do turns fast enough. Is that happening in this tourney?

Am I being dumb is there a way to see how long each scenario lasts? I have in my mind 30 minutes but not sure where that came from?

Thanks Suzuya... I had limited time last night and saved the tourney turn and could not find it today... A tad annoying as in FOG2 you can save a turn in progress and get back to it. Also a tad annoying is thatI have to re-enter password for server every time - FOG2 saves it so no typing again and again... 1st World problems.... But good to know it's not me being dumb...

Sorry typeď this quickly last night, I should have made it clear it was for a tourney game.

Is this possible? It looks like I have to do the turn in one go and submit, but maybe I am getting it wrong?

Right a bit more on topic and I was lucky enough to see Sir Anthony Beaver being interviewed by James Holland at "We Have Ways Fest" this weekend and he was being asked about the research into his Stalingrad book. An excellent interview and might be on line at some stage. Some points that caught my attention that tie into the current war. He mentioned that during his research at the Russian archives that he stumbled upon all the reports back to Stalin and that Stalin had demanded to know the whole truth warts and all... This was a gold mine for the book and gave a pretty good view of the reality of the situation to Stalin. I wonder if x years’ time will we find that Putler is being told the truth warts and all? Did it really help inform Stalin’s choices? We think Putler does not know the truth and he might do things differently but maybe now he knows the truth but he can’t change his choices and as noted is doubling down in the hope things will change… Sir Anthony also mentioned how poor the food was at the canteen of the research place – his Russian researcher used to say he was too spoiled. But what he did get a laugh from is that he used to get excellent hot dogs from a certain person who fell out of the sky a while ago… That was a name we were not expecting to pop up in a Stalingrad talk… Sir Anthony also made a big point about the Soviet brutality and how this really has not changed from WW2 to modern times. He talked about the feral starving Russian kids that were tempted by Germans for crusts of bread to go and fill their water canteens at the river. The Russian snipers were ordered to kill the Russian kids…. Quite a few other horrific examples were given and nothing has changed in Russia in regards to brutality… A couple of tankers Waitman Beorn and Hamish de Bretton-Gordan gave at times an interesting talk and touched upon issues in Ukraine. On a WW2 note a (then)18 year old Tank driver by the name of Richard Aldred gave a very entertaining talk about his experience in Normandy driving a Cromwell… One to try and find on the WWW when it might appear… Here is a newspaper article about the veteran... https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/history/day-cornwall-veteran-aged-98-7472744

My guess the Boer war and WW1? Am I right.... Am I Am I.... DARN TOO SLOW.... Doh!!!

Yuk!!!! I have just had my dinner! Book a room you two... ARE WE THERE YET????

Or some background threshold in which Russia was told if you do X we will do Y has been breached. Could be plenty of reasons for the release that doesn't fit your statement...

I am now looking for ignore button. Please gents can we keep focus on Ukraine and stop the rabbit holes. BTW There are others that I am close to pressing the ignore button on (when I can find it....)

Hmm have you been reading the same thread as me? Can you explain further how Russia can dictate terms and bring this war to an end? Maybe we are missing something that you can explain?

If Labour offered him the position do you really think he would take it? Really BTW he has said some pretty silly things in the past and one man doesn't make defence decisions alone. I have a feeling the British senior military figures might have greater sway than Ben.

The 80/20 rule works pretty well on most things... Now as to which way?

Just watching the BBC report I don't think the drones had any explosive on them, it could just be a big stunt. The Russians have not shown any serious damage and the media have a bit easier access to film any serious damage in Moscow. We will have to see what the drones were to understand the possible range and any possible payload, but its looking like it was more of a psychology opportunity than a serious military hit.

For FA effect on the public and absolutely pointless. We have numerous posts saying why bombing Civies and cities in Ukraine are counter productive to Russia. Unless Ukraine had specific military targets of worth in Moscow then imo they would be better to focus on less defended military targets. Russian military Planes sat on runways perhaps?

I hope Ukraine is targeting military targets in Moscow as otherwise it is a pointless exercise and could weaken support. Surely they would have been better deployed against the forces launching attacks on Ukraine. But until we know the targets in Moscow I guess it is just a feeling of unease that Ukraine is wasting precious military strike capability.

Don't count on the UK as a capable military we have serious issues with our finances which have impacted our military. I would suggest America gets closer with Europe who combined have a more capable military than the UK.

Thanks super useful in trying to get my head around somethings happening in America and even here in the UK

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1658700010643419136 Could be that the Patriot system hurt itself with a misfire? So Russia can't even claim a success with any of their missiles. (Which does not stop them from trying to claim it )

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/16/politics/patriot-missile-damage-ukraine/index.html They might have done some damage to a Patriot? Will be a good test to see how easy to fix if it has been damaged?

Nice to read this. Thanks

Yes but not so easy to carry into combat and rolling around in combat with them might be a bit too dangerous. Carrying flammable liquid around in glass has some challenges.