Tactical Wargamer Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Best Operational Normandy game on the market? OK getting bored of all the books I have ordered from amazon (and read) on Normandy. What PC wargame(s) would you recommend for a detailed look at the Normandy campaign? Thanks Gents 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I would tentatively recomend HPS' Panzer Campaigns: Normandy '44 It's an open system that is very mod-friendly, but ... * there is no PBEM security. Only play against people you trust completely. Cheating is so trivially easy that it's possible to do it accidentally. * the game is very much IGO-UGO * logistics aren't well modelled * the OoB that ships with the game is highly suspect. * there is lots of kewl chrome, which can result in some distinctly odd events (eg. DD Tanks retain their ability to swim for the entire campaign, even though they don't even need that function for the initial landings. 'Special Forces' - Rangers and Commandos - can ignore ZOCs to wriggle between units.) * combined arms effects are notable by their abscence There are others, but those are off the top of my head 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword56 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 By a country mile, it's the St. Lo mod for Command Ops:Battles From The Bulge (Panther Games). Not as wide a theater covered by the mod, and no D-Day, but for the June-July hedgerow campaign by XIX Corps to St. Lo it's the best thing going. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie_Oz Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 The Operational Art of War III is my pick, it is a pretty good all rounder and can model just about any conflict in the modern era. Heaps of Normandy scenarios for it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactical Wargamer Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 ok thanks guys! I have just D/L'ed the St. Lo campaign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 The best contemporary operational wargame for Normandy isn't a PC game, it is a board wargame. It is Normandy '44 by GMT games, published in 2010. It's Board Game Geek page is here - http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/38718/normandy-44 FWIW... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Dave Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Thanks for that Jason Good find. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runessonn1 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 will download Command Ops:Battles From The Bulge demo directly looks sweet 97% in a review bam 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 will download Command Ops:Battles From The Bulge demo directly looks sweet 97% in a review bam Yeah, if you have missed out on Panthers Games, give them a try. Great, solid operational games. Getting out of the constraints of hexes makes such a difference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undead reindeer cavalry Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 is Command Ops any different to the previous games of the series? i can't say i would like Panzer Campaigns, but i don't know any better ones. it's not that different to running some old classics on DOS Box. perhaps it's the scale, but tank combat always seems very wrong in games where units are battalions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactical Wargamer Posted May 15, 2011 Author Share Posted May 15, 2011 The best contemporary operational wargame for Normandy isn't a PC game, it is a board wargame. It is Normandy '44 by GMT games, published in 2010. It's Board Game Geek page is here - http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/38718/normandy-44 FWIW... Very impressive. Any other board wargames in the Normandy area that are in a smaller scale. Say Battalion level? For 5-6 of my buddies are doing a little Operational game using CMBN for the more interesting tactical battles but the board game for the rest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactical Wargamer Posted May 15, 2011 Author Share Posted May 15, 2011 I would tentatively recomend HPS' Panzer Campaigns: Normandy '44 It's an open system that is very mod-friendly, but ... * there is no PBEM security. Only play against people you trust completely. Cheating is so trivially easy that it's possible to do it accidentally. * the game is very much IGO-UGO * logistics aren't well modelled * the OoB that ships with the game is highly suspect. * there is lots of kewl chrome, which can result in some distinctly odd events (eg. DD Tanks retain their ability to swim for the entire campaign, even though they don't even need that function for the initial landings. 'Special Forces' - Rangers and Commandos - can ignore ZOCs to wriggle between units.) * combined arms effects are notable by their abscence There are others, but those are off the top of my head Is there a link one could recommend for the open source. The one I found keeps giving me a corrupted version 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I meant 'open' in that it is very mod friendly. You can change the OoB, the graphics, the environmental and terrain characteristics, the ratings of units, and it has a scenario editor. In fact, I think the only thing you cannot change is the map, and there are some - undocumented and probably unintended - limited ways to modify that too. Not 'open' as in free 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Canuck Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 The best contemporary operational wargame for Normandy isn't a PC game, it is a board wargame. It is Normandy '44 by GMT games, published in 2010. It's Board Game Geek page is here - http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/38718/normandy-44 FWIW... Of course, there's a VASSAL module for it: http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:Normandy_%2744 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactical Wargamer Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 Of course, there's a VASSAL module for it: http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:Normandy_%2744 Thanks JC! Anyone want to sell me a manual for Normandy 44 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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