Hoopenfaust2 Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 I've just made a foolish purchase without doing all of my homework. Makjager said his 7000 works great and he gets the smoke and dust... but its a 32MB. Will I be affected? I bought the damn card just to play CMBB and CMAK and now hopefully I didn't make a bad decision. Cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzman Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 From my understanding its only the 9000s that have problems on the Mac side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrullenhaft Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 My impression on this is that you should be fine, despite having more memory. To my knowledge it is the drivers that are the source of the problem and the Radeon 7000 with either 32Mb or 64Mb should be the same. Each Radeon (chip) model has a slightly different driver (and potentially different bugs). As mentioned the 9x00 series (which is closely related to the 8500's) had a major color bug that has recently been corrected (but not all desired corrections were possible, leaving smoke and dust as opaque objects). However there is a chance that I'm wrong regarding what you'll see (a great help, eh ?). Some of the downsampling that occurred in the CM series (most notably with the Mac GeForces) occurred with cards that had quite a bit of VRAM. It seems that the video drivers weren't allocating that VRAM properly (or more likely weren't telling the game that 32+Mb of VRAM was available). That could happen here. Most likely I don't think it will and you should be OK. Most of the Radeon 7000's had 32Mb of VRAM, so not many people here probably have a 64Mb model. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonm Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 This may seem obvious but what is the shop's return policy? Plug the card in (don't damage the packaging) and try it. If it works great - if not, remove it, re-pack it and go back to the shop with your receipt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrullenhaft Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 One caveat. ATI doesn't sell a 64Mb version of the Radeon 7000 for the Mac. I believe that these 64Mb models are originally PC videocards that have had their ROMs flashed with the Radeon 7000 for Mac video BIOS code. I'm not aware of any problems with this (since the ROMs seem to autodetect the amount of memory onboard the videocard), but I thought you may want to be aware of this. Some of the ATI card manufacturers can vary a bit in quality compared to the products most Mac users may be accustomed to (not that every Mac product was sterling quality). People listing this item on eBay indicate that it works fine with OS X (of course they're trying to sell it too...). And one other detail provided by an eBay lister: "There is an odd issue which affects some Radeon 7000 cards with 64Megs of VRAM for the Macintosh. Under some systems/setups, when that system/setup is put to sleep--and then awoken--there is scrambled video on the display hooked up to a Radeon 7000 card. This occurs with all Radeon 7000 cards for the Macintosh; manufactured by ATI and otherwise. The solution to this issue is to disable deep sleep on such systems via the energy saver panel. And if you simply set your display to go to sleep--or go into screensaver mode--like many Macintosh owners commonly do, all will be well too. Otherwise, the card functions flawlessly! And as mentioned above, this issue affects all Radeon 7000 cards for the Mac regardless of whether the card is converted from a PC version or not." [ January 14, 2004, 03:08 PM: Message edited by: Schrullenhaft ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopenfaust2 Posted January 14, 2004 Author Share Posted January 14, 2004 Thanks guys. This card is from ebay but it is a mac version. The guy selling it has a .mac email address, so everything "seems" kosher. This machine is just for CMAK and CMBB so I'm only going to run Mac OS 9 on it. Hopefully there is someone on the board using this card. Cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonm Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Ah the joys of eBay! If he hasn't shipped it yet, can you get him to download a demo (say CMAK) and try it for you - sending you screenshots? You maybe able to: - Confirm it works - Expose someone to the CM series and perhaps get them to purchase a copy for themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopenfaust2 Posted January 15, 2004 Author Share Posted January 15, 2004 Now, after some great insights from Schrullenhaft I've done some research. The card that I've purchased is probably a PC video card flashed with a Mac Rom. I've just spent an hour reading about it. From numerous posts in several forums the majority have no problems. Only if you are using a beige G3 or using OS Ten. I'm using neither so I think I'm okay. I paid $99 american for the card ( brand new ) but if you've got some computer savvy you could just spend $50 and do the flashing yourself. I've read its called "piracy" which seems to be in a grey area for me ( whatever ). Mac vid cards are 3 times the price of windows cards. Mac users are not allowed to save money 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopenfaust2 Posted January 30, 2004 Author Share Posted January 30, 2004 Received my card last nite. Installed with no problems. Excellent card. I'm used to my iMac G4 card with blurry skies and downsampled graphics. This card is great. FPS have increased dramatically. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Dvorak Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Originally posted by Hoopenfaust 101: Excellent card.So where is the picture? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzman Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Originally posted by Hoopenfaust 101: Received my card last nite. Installed with no problems. Excellent card. I'm used to my iMac G4 card with blurry skies and downsampled graphics. This card is great. FPS have increased dramatically. Thats good to hear (good dragging up an old topic here) because I just made the same move to get a card with more VRAM, and like you off ebay. Alhtough for a lot less than you paid for a year or so ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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