For Sale 1 Used Stug with Extra 75mm Windows

[Ziploc]

Playing Knife Fight at Cecina a while ago I shot up a Stug at point-blank range, 30m, getting two full penetrations on the side and two partials firing at the front on an angle. Yet it slowly swung round and BLAMMO one dead Sherman. What's the most holes you have ever put in something only to see it carry on?

[dieseltaylor]

I once had a crack 6pdr crew fire 10 shots into a MkIV at very short range before they bailed. What you suffered does seem to be excessively unlucky ... but you have to love the game system : )

[Ziploc]

Certainly as a game system it removes the feeling of complete control over the battlefield, but occasionally it does make me grumpy! Especially when my Vet Panther is koed by a single 45mm round through the side of the turret. I'd rather have that Mk IV of yours please...

[JoMac]

Ahhh ZiP, you fail to relieze...In RL, Vet crews are smart enough to bail, but Green crews just dont know any better, lol :-)

[Lt Belenko]

I once put dozens of Russian ATR bullets on a IV while he was in a long range duel with a T-34. Three or five turns of nonstop plinking. The T-34 eventually got it and the ATR crew was KIA too. I bet IV crew was annoyed by all the damn noise while it was going on.

[JoMac]

Yes, and why ATRs sometimes do a good job of annoying tank crews even if little or no damage. However, against lightly armored vehicles, it doesnt take much to annoy them.

[dieseltaylor]

If you get hilly enough terrain or street fighting an ATR can take out a MKIV through top armour. And I suspect other tanks but the MkIV is the only one I have done in battle. Killing MkIV with 0.50's I have done three times.

[JoMac]

I never liked the idea of ATRs & .50 cal taking out anything bigger then light armor ( light tanks, ACs, HTs, etc ) regardless, and even then it should take several rounds or bursts.

[dieseltaylor]

So real life - like a small mortar bomb through an open hatch - should not happen?

Normally need more than one shot. It seems BF factored in the size of the vehicle compared to the vulnerable bits and half-tracks can take many more hits than seems reasonable. Armoured cars less so.

[Michael Emrys]

An HT, if it is not carrying passengers, is mostly empty volume. If it has passengers, they should at least be vulnerable to wounding.

Michael

[Kineas]

I remember getting 3 full penetrations on a Stug F with a 76mm ZIS-3, at close-mid range. The tank stayed motionless about 30secs then started reversing back. I couldn't believe my eyes.

But I also remember killing a Jagdpanther with a single (and first) side shot from a well placed SU-76. That was sweet. Both actions happened in PBEM games.