Kat Johnston Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I played this once as Blue, and suffered no loss whatever. I've played this a few times as Red, and can't for the life of me manage to win. My anti-tank missile teams get one shot (which generally misses, and if it hits, does no damage to enemy tanks) before being killed within seconds by return fire. My BMPs get destroyed by tank fire without ever seeing the enemy. My T-72s occasionally manage to survive the first incoming shell, but it makes no odds as their own guns don't scratch the Abrams. By the time the waves of reinforcements arrive the life expectancy of each wave is measured in seconds before they even get the chance to move... The AI is pretty dumb with the infantry and Strykers, so I've managed to take a few of those out as they rush forward suicidally. But I have yet to destroy a single Abrams, even with RPG hits to the rear and a brave T-72 which managed a hit to the side of an Abrams' turret at about 200 yards. Can this scenario be beaten as Red? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Marshal Blücher Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 This mission is super-easy as Blue, so I doubt it. This was the first mission that I played when I started the original, 1.03 demo up, and I still won. I think of it more of an extended tutorial than anything else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Dave Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Hi John, This scenario can be won by Red I haven't done it myself, but I saw a good friend of mine beat it eventually. Admittedly it took him countless restarts to achieve this. His main tactic was to somehow get in behind Blue, and he did this by going over both of the flanking hills. Using the BMP-1's main gun and missile he took out an Abrams from behind this way. If the BMP didn't do the killing (their chances are VERY slim indeed) his re-postioned T-72's would be in a better position to get off a few shots while the Abrams is distracted. He basically used the BMP's as bait. As it happened I played this last time and lost every bit of armour for only 1 Stryker killed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Johnston Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 Glad to know it's possible. I managed to get an Abrams this time round, with an RPG-7 to the side. One of my T-72s got a hit on the rear of another Abrams but only immobilised it, probably had the wrong round loaded as it had just killed a Stryker. Next time, Gadget. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I could win as Red, no problem. But then again... I made the scenario and the AI scripts... so I had a bit of an advantage It basically boils down to luck of the draw. Not only tactical luck, but also which AI plan is selected for Blue. IIRC one of the choices was very brittle if there were a few losses taken up front. Having said that, the scenario was one of the first CMx2 battles ever experienced by players and we didn't want it to kick people's butts too easily too quickly. So it definitely is extremely difficult to win as Red. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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