TOG Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Well I see that very rarely, while enemy BMP's fire them all the time. I've read somewhere in other topic that BMP has to opened up to fire the ATGM. I tried that too. One time opened gunner buttoned up and started to fire 73mm. Another thing I saw was BMP1 firing 73mm HE rounds into back of T64 at point blanc. He actually killed it after few rounds, but wouldn't it be faster to use HEAT? Another question - does ATGM equipped version of BRDM have to be opened up to use missiles? Had some of them in a quick battle. They stood helplessly in front of enemey (the distance was about 500m, some targets a litte closer, other a little farther) and got killed without firing a shot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 No, the BRDM-AT fires its missiles from under armor. In fact, you'd better be buttoned because of missile propellant backblast as the missiles clear the vehicle. You might have to open to reload after firing the 4 to 6 missiles on the launch rail (number varies by missile type), but certainly not to fire. [ October 01, 2007, 07:54 PM: Message edited by: JasonC ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT North Dakota Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Originally posted by TOG: Another thing I saw was BMP1 firing 73mm HE rounds into back of T64 at point blanc. He actually killed it after few rounds, but wouldn't it be faster to use HEAT? I'm not sure that there actually is a 73mm HE round for the BMP. I know people say there is, but I've never seen or heard of it. If someone can tell me about such a round, I'd be genuinely interested to know. The RPG-7 never originally developed an HE round either. Why have two different types, to add to the confusion? It wasn't the Soviet way to do things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiB Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 IIRC you have to be several hundred yards away before they will fire their ATGM. I have encountered this problem several times, its a range issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigduke6 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 BMP-1 is equipped with a Sagger AT-4 missile, which is ineffective from 1-500 meters. So it's pretty useless in any kind of close terrain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOG Posted October 2, 2007 Author Share Posted October 2, 2007 BMP-1's 73mm cannon uses the similar ammo as SPG-9 recoilless rifle. The recoilless rifle uses OG-9W rounds (HE) and PG-9W (HEAT). BMP's 73mm 2A28 Grom cannon uses OG-15W (HE) and PG-15W (HEAT) rounds. At least according to Wikipedia. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOG Posted October 2, 2007 Author Share Posted October 2, 2007 Anyway in case of ATGM's probably range is the problem at least with AT-3 armed BMP's. The ones with AT-4's should have shorter minimum range I think (don't remember exactly). Other thing is slamming HE shells into back of a tank, where probably HEAT would have some chance of penetrating. (HE actually destroyed the tank after about 3 hits, so HEAT probably could do it with first hit). I was playing v1.03 and I think the problem with firing HE shells at tanks by various vehicles was supposed to be solved. Didn't try v1.04 yet. Actually I should post it in original thread about firing HE at tanks, but I couldn't find it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT North Dakota Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Originally posted by TOG: BMP-1's 73mm cannon uses the similar ammo as SPG-9 recoilless rifle. The recoilless rifle uses OG-9W rounds (HE) and PG-9W (HEAT). BMP's 73mm 2A28 Grom cannon uses OG-15W (HE) and PG-15W (HEAT) rounds. At least according to Wikipedia. Ahhh.. Wikipedia.. so that must be correct!!! Still puzzelled over this I went and got my Isby (John Kettler will sympathise!) and looked up the BMP-1 Main. Isby notes that the gun stadia is only set up for HEAT ammo. So unless the HE round as the exact same ballistic coefficent, the sighting system will be sub-optimal. I last sat in a BMP-1 turret about 10 years ago, so I can't swear to this. I'd be very surprised to find any operational BMP-1 with both HEAT and HE. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOG Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 Here is a better source, maybe this will be interesting for you: http://www.kbptula.ru/eng/str/cannons/2a28.htm there is not much info, but it mentions OG15 shell. If HE ammo is in use or not is another thing. Edit: spelling mistake [ October 03, 2007, 05:26 AM: Message edited by: TOG ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1A1TC Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 My BRDMs arent firing their ATGMs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stikkypixie Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I've been playing a lot of Red on Red lately and I've seen BMP-1's fire their missiles. They fire their cannon first though. Same for BMP-2's, in fact I've got a burning Bradley to prove it...I wonder what makes them behave so differently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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