Egon Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I am into ToW now for a few days and I think it is a great game with huge potential. Congrats ! What I am missing though is the option to edit individual maps so I can generate historical scenarios. I have enjoyed that a lot since the early days, when I was battling my local highschool buddies in hotseat games playing "Kampfgruppe" on a VC 64. .. so - let´s talk about maps. [ November 01, 2007, 07:09 AM: Message edited by: Egon ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyman56 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I am sure you can edit individual maps in the map editor and mission editor i have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reichenberg Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 To my knowledge the available map editor has only the potential to change objects on already existing maps (e.g. field fortifications, trees...). To actually change maps or build new ones is not possible (e.g. change elevation, rivers...). Hopefully it will be implemented at one point. Uwe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egon Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 I think Reichenberg is right, but didn´t Sneaksie post somewhere that a "full" map editor would be available later this year (included in the next patch or the add on). I wonder if there is currently any method to create a new map (e.g. using a 3D modelling tool and Photoshop), but I guess all the map info is still hidden in the depths of the prog, so we can´t get to them. Greetings - Egon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapHappy Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Actually the map terrains are simple 16 bit RAW files. If you can find a program to edit those file types, you should be able to edit them. You will also need to un-pack the map files from the archive files using Dr. Jones extraction tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egon Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 Thx for the info Slap. Next question is, wether it´s possible then to create larger maps. I feel not that comfortable with the actual 2x2km grid, because it gives a nice tactical sim a touch of a shooter (c`mon, think of the effective fire range for a Tiger, Panther etc.) I definitely would trade in some map detail for room to manoeuvre. Imagine a 12x12km grid like in ancient "Kampfgruppe" - esp. multiplayer games could be very exciting that way. Maps that make you think more about fire fronts than movement plans limit the game too much - at least to my point of view. ------------ It´s all manoeuvre warfare these days! - (Egon) [ November 07, 2007, 03:08 AM: Message edited by: Egon ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egon Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 Sneaksie around, to comfort us with some insider wisdom ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egon Posted November 7, 2007 Author Share Posted November 7, 2007 Quotes from tech. support forum/Owen Wills´ topic: ----- Sneaksie (..) Release of new map builder should make this more simple, in addition to landscape editing ability. ----- Egon (..) Does "landscape" include elevation / heightmaps ? ----- Sneaksie Yes. Basically you can shape landscape as you want. Biggest challenge is not height map though, but 2048x2048 terrain texture itself. You still need graphic editing skills (i use GIMP) for editing it or creating new one. ----- :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webwing Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 - A map builder for TOW where you can edit the elevation of the terrain??? When??? -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapHappy Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Yes it has been promised, sooner or later..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webwing Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 SlapHappy, Here I am!! Man, this is like a dream came true. Can't wait to put my hands on it!!!! -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapHappy Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Yep. Thing is, I suspect it will be an "add-on" item rather than a "patch" item. I have no problem with that except the patch is imminent. The add-on, who knows? At first I thought this patch was only going to address multi-player issues...but according to MadMatt there is a lot more in there...1.2 GB worth of stuff. I just wish I could worm more information out of MM about what these AI improvements he spoke of were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaksie Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 There is a new Builder in this patch which can edit landscape, roads, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reichenberg Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Originally posted by Sneaksie: There is a new Builder in this patch which can edit landscape, roads, etc. That's what I call good news!!! Will we be able to change height and terrain type too?? Sneaksie, with all those goodies about the upcoming patch being hidden in quite some different threads....maybe it is time to give some detialed info about it soon? Uwe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaksie Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Yes, you can edit height map and "terrain type" map (grass, culture grass, flowers, soil, etc.). There will be changelog posted of course along with the patch release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reichenberg Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 That is really awesome with the upgrade for the map editor!! We will have then a full blown map editor. right now it is better than nothing, but unfortunately pretty limited Originally posted by Sneaksie: ...with the patch release. I hoped for prior to patch release.... Anyways, the wait won't kill me - and as long as the patch/add-on will be only half as good as promised.... nobody will kill you Uwe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webwing Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Originally posted by Sneaksie: Yes, you can edit height map and "terrain type" map (grass, culture grass, flowers, soil, etc.). There will be changelog posted of course along with the patch release. Sneaksie, Thanks a lot. That is amazing! Best news I hear in a long time. I'm back to TOW!!! -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War RaVeN Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Sneaksie, That is tremendous news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egon Posted November 26, 2007 Author Share Posted November 26, 2007 Thx for the good news, Sneaksie ! I have already begun collecting material for my favorite map/scenario project. .. AND another question here: will maps be larger than 2x2km in the near future, or is this impossible for any reason ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaksie Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 In near future (several months) maps will keep their physical size, but increasing texture resolution by several times is planned for new maps in future releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egon Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 THE NEW MAP EDITOR: Excellent ! What a cool tool !! Guess, I have to travel to Poland soon to photograph some landscape, if I can´t get these bloody 1:25000 maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaksie Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Egon It seems you are very determined and diligent person :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egon Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 ... thx for the compliment, Sneaksie (reminds me of the words I heard, when they tried to make me stay in the army for another four years - lol). OK, back to the topic then. I found out, that there is a so-called "Deutsche Heereskarte 1:25000". I googled a lot, but those are scarce and high-prized on eBay and the archives don´t seem to have them accessible for Mr. Average (esp. NOT for wargamers, I guess). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Originally posted by Egon: ... thx for the compliment, Sneaksie (reminds me of the words I heard, when they tried to make me stay in the army for another four years - lol). OK, back to the topic then. I found out, that there is a so-called "Deutsche Heereskarte 1:25000". I googled a lot, but those are scarce and high-prized on eBay and the archives don´t seem to have them accessible for Mr. Average (esp. NOT for wargamers, I guess). Try an archive in Britain, Canada or the US, particularly regimental archives. I know my regiment in Calgary has holdings of captured enemy maps from NW Europe. More than one way to skin a cat, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egon Posted December 19, 2007 Author Share Posted December 19, 2007 ... rgr that. mmmh - can´t remember who gave me following link .. for a broader view of the theatre these historical maps (1:200 000 scale) are great. In combination with Google Earth they helped a lot with my map project. http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm Greetings - Egon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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