John Kettler Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 bartleby, This describes a special purpose version of the basic concept I described. Sorry, no online readable version. www.knox.army.mil/center/ocoa/ArmorMag/jf99/1tan99.pdf Merkava based heavy APC http://www.bookrags.com/wiki/Merkava BTR-T, Black Eagle & former FST http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Rampart/1966/vehicles.htm Heavy APC threads mit pics http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread206596/pg3 http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3101927042/m/5071907726/p/5/xsl/print_topic Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Bumping this so bartleby gets to see the heavy APC stuff! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Cairns Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 If an IED can do this to a bradley then nothing is safe. Peter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Cairns Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 If an IED can do this to a bradley then nothing is safe. Guardian May 2007 Peter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisND Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Hehe I used to be in 2/9 inf. That was before Iraq though. Assume the Manchu Position! Back on topic, I really tire of talk about equipment, equipment, equipment from the "think-too-much-tanks" and the Senate. It's not all about the equipment, there's something to be said about how those assets are employed. That is where success, or at least the fewest casualties lies. Actually, now that I think about it, let the Senate debate the equipment and haggle with their lobbyists. I don't want them trying to tell troops how to operate. :eek: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Peter Cairns, From what I've read, some of the IEDs can do that to an Abrams! Would rate that Bradley as 100% NMC. Sad about the men, but having seen how incredibly packed the inside of a Bradley is, and all the nasty hard bits to bang into, am not surprised that the combination of shattering blast and a fearsome upending would wreak havoc on the occupants. Normal Dude, Excellent point! All the high tech in the world, if used incorrectly and/or in the wrong place and time won't buy you anything, save maybe a body bag! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartleby Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Originally posted by John Kettler: bartleby,Good links! Thanks. cheers! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 bartleby, You're welcome! Wouldn't know about the Nameera or several other heavy APCs were it not for digging up stuff for you. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargon70 Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Originally posted by Peter Cairns: If an IED can do this to a bradley then nothing is safe. Guardian May 2007 Peter. Somehow I get the feeling that the "I" for "improvised" in IED is a huge understatement... Sargon70 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Sargon70, Especially when the improvization consists, say, of stacking two Soviet era TM-65 antitank mines atop each other. I suspect that the term IED, though, allows the Pentagon to not have to admit that proper mines are being used against U.S. forces. IED is positively neutral sounding compared to admitting an ex-Soviet (or whomever) mine blew one of our AFVs apart. Makes the opposition seem less organized militarily, making it easier to keep the war sold, at least for a time. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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