John Kettler Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Segments will cover the Barrett M107 .50 cal. semiautomatic sniper rifle, the brand new super quiet U 212 class FRG sub (hybrid Diesel/electric/ fuel cell), the Predator UAV, and the F-22 Raptor fighter. Schedule info is for Time Warner Cable. Regards, John Kettler P.S. Next week: MLRS and MetalStorm [ April 27, 2006, 02:24 AM: Message edited by: John Kettler ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Cairns Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Gee, the F-22 what a great plane, especially the easy of exit. Raptor exit technique Don't forget to do the on line poll. Peter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtweasle Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I was thinking about the German U212 after watching that last night. It occured to me that the hydrogen stored outside the ship even if it has been designed to blow outward (should it blow) that when deep enough it will become irrelevant. The inner hull pretty much has to take the force. Action v reaction and all that... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Yikes, all the Pentagon needs is another White Elephant submarine class so they can keep fighting the cold war. I can't recall subs being of much utility in Afghanistan, can you? And in the meantime Rumsfeld's set plans in motion to scrap the whole B52 bomber fleet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 MikeyD, The sub in the program is NOT U.S., but German. This means you can reallocate your fret points to more pressing issues. If you don't find fretting fulfilling, there's always mod work! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Talking of pointless subs, why the hell are we spending a couple of billion on these?? http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.5128 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Krejcirik Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Originally posted by Londoner: Talking of pointless subs, why the hell are we spending a couple of billion on these?? ttp://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.5128 Why do you think subs are pointless, IMO they are still as important as carriers, it's navy equivalent of stealth bomber. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Cairns Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Martin Krejcirik, And just what is it thats threatening us right now or in the near future that requires a Naval stealth Bomber. To my recollection the only SSN that has ever fired a shot in anger was HMS Conquerer at the Belgrano, and that was nearly 25 years ago. Oh and given the cost over runs the first three Astute class are comming in at close to £1bn each. Thats enough to by 1,000 Strykers. Peter. [ April 29, 2006, 10:48 AM: Message edited by: Peter Cairns ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Like Peter said. Just seems like an awfully expensive delivery system for a handful of cruise missiles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Originally posted by Peter Cairns: Martin Krejcirik, To my recollection the only SSN that has ever fired a shot in anger was HMS Conquerer at the Belgrano, and that was nearly 25 years ago. Pete, Not sure if that's entirely true. Didn't HMS Splendid fire 15-20 cruise missiles at Iraqi targets in '03? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 And if memory serves correctly we fired some Tomahawks at Serb targets during Kosovo, maybe Splendid again? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Krejcirik Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Originally posted by Peter Cairns: And just what is it thats threatening us right now or in the near future that requires a Naval stealth Bomber.True, but if you are going to face just a few terrorists in Afganistan, why do you need ANY modern systems at all ? Or why don't just buy cheap Russian stuff ? These are all more long term strategic decisions. If you stop developing your own subs, you will probably never be able to re-start it again. They will be gone forever. I remember I read somewhere, the US needs to build a minimum two subs a year just to retain ability to build any. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Cairns Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Yes but you can deliver Cruise from a surface ship or a plane far cheaper, hell why put 8 Gi's in the back of a Stryker when you could give each one a gold plated Hummer with a personal driver. Peter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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