tracer Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 I found this site where they found T-34 in a marsh no battle damage, they changed the oil and did some minor tweaking , and the tanks started up!! after 60 years check this site outhttp://www.geocities.com/military_archeology/tanks.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted November 27, 2002 Author Share Posted November 27, 2002 copy and paste the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted November 27, 2002 Author Share Posted November 27, 2002 crap here's the link http://www.geocities.com/military_archeology/tanks.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baetis Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 I recently read that all T-34 were equiped with a hammer because they could never get into high gear properly without hammering on the gear shaft... Sorry if that is common knowledge around here. Read it in Strange and Facinating Facts of WWII, or something (fink?) like that. Edit: Thanks for the link by the way. neat read. [ November 26, 2002, 07:46 PM: Message edited by: Baetis ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grisha Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Baetis, I've heard this story many times here, but have never been able to determine the veracity of it. Was it a comment from a Soviet tanker back then, official Soviet history, comments from some german soldiers, or reference to a specific model/variant/prototype? Starting this thing after six decades in a bog is indeed impressive and says volumes of the engineering of Soviet equipment. They may not have had a long life or been too refined, but within these limitations Soviet equipment was remarkably robust and dependable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halberdier Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Cool! Now someone go over there and take a look at the tanks' optics and give info to BTS. At least we can get an idea of what the late war Soviet tank optics are like. cheers! -gabe- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KG_SSpoom Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Very cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Grisha, Starting this thing after six decades in a bog is indeed impressive and says volumes of the engineering of Soviet equipment.Wish the same could be said for the team that recovered a StuGIII G now at the Patton Museum. They said "oh look, a hatch! What a great place to put our hook". Ripped off 1/4 of the superstructure top, which was not recovered later when the rest of the vehicle was pulled out. BTW, a Panther was pulled out in pieces in Poland recently. It is now in the US being reassembled. Apparently the Germans demoed the vehicle on top of a bog on purpose. As a collector it is better to have parts of a Panther than no Panther at all Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engel Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 I think I recall reading it somewhere that the entire hammer/T-34 story is based on hammers being found on the floors of T-34's, but that it has never actually been verified what they were used for (could be plenty of uses for a hammer in a tank, for all I know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted November 27, 2002 Author Share Posted November 27, 2002 When i was last over seas in the Kurland pocket area hunting for battlefield relics, I spoke with some people and there were other groups out there finding old russian and german Pzs all over the place. here's a differnt link where they have found, Tiger tanks even, here's the link http://www.stalingrad.ic.ru/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 I thought the hammer was carried to knock out the escape hatch in the bottom of the tank. I've seen this on a documentary about the (British) Sherman, don't know about the Russians doing it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevsharr Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 I don't know about the hammer story but I know that the early T-34's had some really cobby transmission's.I have photo's of T-34's with extra trannies chained to their engine deck's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grisha Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Originally posted by Battlefront.com: Wish the same could be said for the team that recovered a StuGIII G now at the Patton Museum. They said "oh look, a hatch! What a great place to put our hook". Ripped off 1/4 of the superstructure top, which was not recovered later when the rest of the vehicle was pulled out.Yikes!!! I bet the only bids those guys could get now for pulling things out of the ground are potatos in a field somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KwK43 L/71 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Actually it's more of a testament to the tolerances built into the machines to compensate for the crappy workmanship. They had to design them with all the parts fitting loosely so that if Ivan's lathe was 6mm off they could still put the tank together and it would run fine. A side effect was that these things were damn hard to break, kinda like the AK or the M3 sub gun, thing shakes like a rattle but it'll keep firing half rusted, underwater, and full of sand. (Ok that might be an exaggeration but you get the idea.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 To all Modders this is a real nice incentive for a new scenario with an already bogged T-34 in a marsh. The historical perspective is given in full..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baetis Posted November 28, 2002 Share Posted November 28, 2002 According to this and a few other sites i saw, the hammer was also needed to tighten the treads. Neat page too. [ November 27, 2002, 05:42 PM: Message edited by: Baetis ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted November 30, 2002 Author Share Posted November 30, 2002 yes that is a good point, there must have been some real marshy areas that some of these battles tok place in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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