fitz Posted November 24, 2002 Share Posted November 24, 2002 As far as I know there are four different uniform types for the Italians in the bmps. These are Bersaglieri, Alpini, Cavalry and tank crew. The tank crew shows up fine but any time I have played a scenario with Italians all the other types are always represented as Cavalry. I know this is a bit pedantic but I would like to see the designers work on show. I was wondering if anybody else has experienced this? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted November 24, 2002 Share Posted November 24, 2002 http://members.shaw.ca/grossdeutschland/moduniform.htm This is our understanding of how the Italian uniforms work - see the last few rows of the last table on the page. Are they not performing in this manner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted November 24, 2002 Share Posted November 24, 2002 All showing up okeydokey for me. Dunno why you might be having a problem. Hehe... while testing this out I did notice that you can't purchase a single Bersaglieri Platoon. This will be fixed for 1.02 Steve [ November 23, 2002, 07:21 PM: Message edited by: Battlefront.com ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitz Posted November 24, 2002 Author Share Posted November 24, 2002 Tanks for getting back to me so quick. I am having the same problem. In fact the only type of division you can get is mechanised. No Infantry, Mountain or ski. This is where the problems with uniforms come in. Excuse me while I get boring here! The bmp for the infantry body is( thanks for the tables Micheal!) 9901,which is a Bersaglieri (light/mechanised infantry) uniform. The bmp for the mechanised infantry body is 9909,which is the uniform of the Savoia Dragoons i.e. cavalry. So if the only division you can choose is Mechanised then the only uniform you can get is Cavalry. Check out the scenario Sapristi. The Bersaglieri and Cavalry squads all have the same bmp used. Dont get me wrong, I dont want to appear like a pain in the arse. Cheers and thanks for a great game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakthrough Posted November 24, 2002 Share Posted November 24, 2002 Their sleeves look too short because their hands are up alot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted November 24, 2002 Share Posted November 24, 2002 Ah... OK, now I know what you are talking about. This is actually something we can't do anything about. Uniforms can only be changed based on the Division type. So if you select Mechanized, and then two different types of units, the same uniform will be used for both. This is an inherent limitation with the CM engine going way back to when the max size video card was 8MB The rewrite of the engine will change all of that, but nothing can be done for CMBB. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Steiner Posted November 24, 2002 Share Posted November 24, 2002 Psst! Hey buddy, wanna buy a used Carcano rifle? Never fired, only dropped once! (Hey, just like ARVN rifles) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amedeo Posted November 24, 2002 Share Posted November 24, 2002 Just a couple of side notes. The uniform are generally correct but: 1. The uniform shown for 'mechanized' type division is that of cavalry. Since the use of unmounted cavalry on the Eastern Front was very rare for Italian troops, maybe someone might volunteer to mod it to Bersaglieri uniforms. 2. Infantry uniforms shows the red swallow tailed collar patched that are actually used only by unregimented infantry. Actually each Regiment had his own particular collar patch (just an historical note, I know this is impossible to represent within the current game engine). 3. Last but not least. Bersaglieri and Alpini troops never went into action without their drooping plume (for the former) or the long eagle's feather fixed to their helmets. Regards, Amedeo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Gallear Posted November 24, 2002 Share Posted November 24, 2002 As there are a number of experts on the Italian army in this post has any got a picture of a badge used by the Alpino ‘Monte Cervino’ Ski Battalion for my Grog Icon bar. –I know they were equipped with skis for the Russian campaign. I am currently using a badge of an Alpino unit that served in Russia. As the Italian Cavalry are now in the game (Apparently) not looked I will be updating that Icon as well. (Got the badge already). I have been having computer probs - so bare with me. My site for the icons is here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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