The Commissar Posted February 24, 2002 Share Posted February 24, 2002 Originally posted by Captain Wacky: Stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wacky Posted February 24, 2002 Share Posted February 24, 2002 An entertaining satire on Soviet & communist ideology, nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipper Posted February 24, 2002 Share Posted February 24, 2002 Originally posted by Captain Wacky: An entertaining satire on Soviet & communist ideology, nonetheless.Of which you clearly have no idea. For your guidance, soviet and communist ideology always relied on personified myth. Heroes. Anybody who graduated from school before 1990 knows about Gastello, Kosmodemyanskaya, Meresyev, Matrosov, defenders of Brest fortress, etc etc etc. That's for WWII, and that's only a small part of the whole list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wacky Posted February 24, 2002 Share Posted February 24, 2002 Originally posted by Skipper: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Captain Wacky: An entertaining satire on Soviet & communist ideology, nonetheless.Of which you clearly have no idea. For your guidance, soviet and communist ideology always relied on personified myth. Heroes. Anybody who graduated from school before 1990 knows about Gastello, Kosmodemyanskaya, Meresyev, Matrosov, defenders of Brest fortress, etc etc etc. That's for WWII, and that's only a small part of the whole list.</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipper Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 Ideology-wise, it never was about "sameness". Equality - yes. Putting collective interests above personal - yes. Sameness??? What the heck are you talking there about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wacky Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 Originally posted by Skipper: Ideology-wise, it never was about "sameness". Equality - yes. Putting collective interests above personal - yes. Sameness??? What the heck are you talking there about?Sameness of thought in that everyone is dedicated towards a single common goal. It's too nice an afternoon to get into an argument about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipper Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 Oh, in that sense - yes. But you were not supposed to be same as everybody else in pursuing that goal. Quite the contrary, in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argie Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 The "ideal" of Russian Communist Party was a merithocracy, AFAIK. Something like a Communist MacDonalds Don't you remember all those old men buried in medals french kissing each other? You must be too young... Or too whacky? You were rewarded each time you make something good for the community, like increasing productivity, killing Nazis or somefink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dima Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 Some resistance (partisans) units can be considered Elite. There are many books on the topic (mostly never translated in english )which describe many of the raids having as high as 1:10 losses ratio. BTW, Hi Mom ! [ February 25, 2002, 02:06 AM: Message edited by: dima ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tero Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 Originally posted by dima: Some resistance (partisans) units can be considered Elite. There are many books on the topic (mostly never translated in english )which describe many of the raids having as high as 1:10 losses ratio. Even there there seems to be much variation. At least the units facing Finns were operated from across the front line (from the Red Army side that is ) and almost completely comprised of members of the Communist party rather than trained military personel. Their elan was immaculate but they did commit some horrendous acts of war crimes against the civilian population. And if cornered by regular troops pursuing them they would suffer high casualties and more often than not the unit would be virtually annihilated. However, from what I have read, the LRRP type units running purely military missions operated by the Red Army were quite proficient and would IMO qualify for the Elite status. This seems BTW to be universally true to all armies. The military units detailed with gathering information behind the enemy lines are made out of the crem de la crem of the respective armies. BTW, Hi Mom ! Hi dad. SEND MORE MONEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wacky Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 You guys need lessons on the use of "hi mom" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soddball Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 Yeah, what a miserable bunch of tarts. By the way, wackoff - if someone quotes you in their sig, that's flattering. If you quote yourself - that's sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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