zukkov Posted October 28, 2002 Share Posted October 28, 2002 they're showing hell's battlefield on the history channel as i write this. it covers stalingrad, kursk, and d-day. during the coverage on kursk they said, and i quote, "the mkIVs, panthers, and tigers were no match for the t34s". it's about damn time you german grogs fess up and admit that!! seriously though, i suppose you could say that because of the numbers the russians were able to produce, that statement could be true. just like the sherman. allies rule dudes!! vv3 b leet! lol [ October 27, 2002, 08:57 PM: Message edited by: zukkov ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panzer Boxb Posted October 28, 2002 Share Posted October 28, 2002 I was channel swapping between that and Dogma. In total, I was unimpressed by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akdavis Posted October 28, 2002 Share Posted October 28, 2002 lol, me too Panzer. I saw some footage of some very suspicious looking Tigers in that doc. I prefer looking at Salma Hayek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGSF Posted October 28, 2002 Share Posted October 28, 2002 I switched over to something else after about 10 minutes. Some interesting footage, but the monologue was so dumbed down as to be annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Steiner Posted October 28, 2002 Share Posted October 28, 2002 Take what you hear on the History Channel with a grain of salt, my friend. After looking at photos taken after the tank battle at Prokhorovka, which show destroyed Russian tanks as far as the eye can see, I'd say those Tigers and Panthers were more than a match. Overwhelming numbers, and the fact that the Russians knew the German plan in advance, and prepared accordingly were the main culprits behind Zitadelle's failure. Khruschev's order to the T-34's to dig in (against Stalin's orders) helped too. But the final nail in Zitadelle's coffin was the invasion of Sicily; at which point Hitler called off the Kursk offensive.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watson & Crick Posted October 28, 2002 Share Posted October 28, 2002 OMG. In the battle of the bulge episode, they were showing footage of US m8's and talking about us tank destroyers killing German panzers and tigers. Sounds a bit gamey. Shades of CMBO armor battles :eek: ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha_Field_Marshall Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 Can any one suggest some non gamey reading on the battle for kursk, I saw that show it blew. [ October 28, 2002, 05:13 PM: Message edited by: Tha_Field_Marshall ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrold Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 Glatz has a book titled "The Battle of Kursk" that was very informative. The Simpsons reruns are all of the Halloween specials this week so I am happy. The one that is on now contains the parody of the Shining and the tale of Homer making a time machine from his toaster. BDH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Manuel Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 Tha_Field_Marhsall, link try "CSI Reports, #11" by David Glantz- Soviet Defensive Operations @ Kursk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyym Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 During Sunday, I was switching between the Bear game and the movie "The Blair Witch Project". I don't know which was more scarey. Tyym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage2 Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 "It's the Shinnin'. D'ya wanna get soooed boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitzkrieg Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 I saw the ads for this yesterday afternoon. Tried to watch it without laughing my ass off. Very bad. I think the John Kettler quote about samuari would be very appropriate with this production. Worst part was the narrator overall but also how he kept mispronouncing names of towns and locations. Pas de Calais, Stavelot and Salm River were just a few he got wrong that I remember off the top of my head. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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