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Looking for info on the 1st Canadian armored brigade, specifically which regiment(s) supported the British 4th infantry division during the drive on Florence in mid-July '44.

To date my my main source of research material is After the battle magazine issue 129, but the info is somewhat confusing.

For instance, it states that the Canadians were in support of 4th ID when the latter captured Montevarchi on July 18th. However, a couple of paragraphs later it goes on to say that the same brigade was under the control of 8th Indian division on July 20th, when they were advancing on Empoli and Montelupo, a good 40 kilometers to the west.

Was the 1st CAB broken up and distributed amongst the various divisions in Brit X / XIII Corp, or did it actually side step across the front in those 2 days?

Thanks in advance

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Quicked searched and found these, they are not much tho:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Canadian_Armoured_Brigade

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Canadian_Tank_Brigade

Did some more, it seems that there isn't much but the same kinda details:

http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/mediawiki-1.5.5/index.php?title=1st_Canadian_Armoured_Brigade

http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/mediawiki-1.5.5/index.php?title=Italian_Campaign (look for advance to Florence)

http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=history/secondwar/Italy (not much here either)

Every thing about them is the same and a bit vague...

Two rather large PDF Files(like... HUGE), you might find something in these(haven't had the time to look lol as you can see why!):

http://www.dnd.ca/dhh/downloads/cmhq/cmhq179.pdf

http://www.dnd.ca/dhh/downloads/cmhq/cmhq178.pdf

Good luck with those, here's the site I got them from:

http://www.dnd.ca/DHH/history_archives/engraph/cmhq_e.asp?cat=1

It's the best I could do ATM. I'll scout around some more. O yea, G.R. is gonna have to wait a bit, RL is kinda gettin in the way(freakin school)

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Kingfish,

Have you tried asking here?

http://www.wwii.ca/forums/

These seem to be very much on point.

53dec [w51] (PDF File)

... the 1st Canadian Armoured Brigade in Italy, May 1944 to February 1945: Part II, The Advance to Florence, 3 Jun - 1 Sep ...

www.forces.gc.ca/dhh/downloads/cmhq/cmhq160.pdf · Save

1 Report No. 175 REPORT NO. (PDF File)

Operations of the 1st Canadian Armoured Brigade in Italy, May 1944 to February 1945: Part ... History of the 11th Canadian Armoured ...

www.forces.gc.ca/dhh/downloads/cmhq/cmhq175.pdf · Save

This may or may not be useful.

http://members.tripod.com/~aries46/gemmano.htm

Might be in 4th ID history at bottom of linked page.

http://www.unithistories.com/units_british/4InfDiv.html

Regards,

John Kettler

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Originally posted by gibsonm:

Suspect Dorosh will be along in a second with a swag of information.

I must acknowledge that he has been very helpful with info for the project I’m currently working on about the 3rd Canadian Div and its drive inshore from JUNO.

He has my email address; the open invitation has been made long ago. I have Nicholson sitting on the shelf; I'm certain that info is at hand. Let me know, KF.
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