Hans Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Any British unit grogs out there know which units were in Jaffa in April 1948? These were the units that fought a short action with the Irgun & Haganah to stop them from attacking Arab Jaffa. One Brit tank was reportedly taken out by a Israeli PIAT during this fighting. Any ideas on which Brit Regiment/Battalion this was? Could it have been the 2nd Battalion The Royal Lincolnshire Regiment????? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted November 28, 2004 Author Share Posted November 28, 2004 Small bump - where are those British military Grogs with infinite resources? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Scurrying to rifle through their books. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted November 28, 2004 Author Share Posted November 28, 2004 There's a nice piece of cheese for ya if you get the answer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 While we are on the Brits, why do infantry tanks have AP rounds? I was looking at the German captured Val and Matilda, and found the same under the Brits. My guess is if the infantry comes under attack from an armoured vehicle. But some HE would be nice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oren_m Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Hans! i found great aireal pictures of the tel-aviv-jaffa area from 1948, i'm looking for some information about it also, the only problem is that it's all in hebrew, so i'll try to translate it properly! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oren_m Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Well, until now i only found that in 1917 there were Ausralian units in Jaffa: 1st Light Horse Regiment 2nd Light Horse Regiment 3rd Light Horse Regiment 14th Light Horse Regiment 15th Light Horse Regiment 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oren_m Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 I found it! The name of the british unit which was stationed in jaffa is: 2nd Battalion The Royal Lincolnshire Regiment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted November 29, 2004 Author Share Posted November 29, 2004 Originally posted by oren_m: I found it! The name of the british unit which was stationed in jaffa is: 2nd Battalion The Royal Lincolnshire Regiment. Thanks Oren_m I wonder if we both got that from the same on line source? Is there nothing in the Hebrew sources under Irgun and Haganah history about who they fought a pitched battle with? I found that odd.. Another piece of Israeli history you might be able to help me on Master Sergeant Desmond Rutledge, British tanker who deserted from the British forces with his Cromwell tank. I believe he changed his name to Zvi Rimer? Is there anything in the Hebrew on his fights with the Cromwell in the 48 war? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Enigma Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 wasnt one of the paras divs there before they got sent home and demobbed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Originally posted by junk2drive: While we are on the Brits, why do infantry tanks have AP rounds? I was looking at the German captured Val and Matilda, and found the same under the Brits. My guess is if the infantry comes under attack from an armoured vehicle. But some HE would be nice. British doctrine in the early part of the war called for soft targets to be engaged with MGs, while the main guns were reserved for enemy armor. They did have a few CS tanks armed with the low velocity 3" howitzers, but only a few, and they carried very limited HE ammo (mostly smoke rounds). It wasn't until the Grants showed up that the Brits finally had a decent HE chucker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakthrough Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 The 6th Para Div was based in Palestine at this time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webs Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Originally posted by oren_m: i found great aireal pictures of the tel-aviv-jaffa area from 1948, i'm looking for some information about it also, the only problem is that it's all in hebrew, so i'll try to translate it properly! Oren - I want those! E-mail me: webs(at)101squadron.com 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oren_m Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Webs! The detailes in the map are in hebrew, so i'll have to translate them into english with photoshop, i hope tommorow i'll have some time to do that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webs Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Todah! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted December 1, 2004 Author Share Posted December 1, 2004 Thanks for your efforts Oren_m, we await your offering. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oren_m Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Hans! I have sent the translated maps to webs, i would like to send them to you also but i dont have your e-mail. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted December 1, 2004 Author Share Posted December 1, 2004 Wayne100@emirates.net.ae 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 So, soon I will have my 70 troops fighting MR35s in Degania A ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Gautrek's MR35 The ram's head on the turret is a nice touch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webs Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Originally posted by oren_m: I have sent the translated maps to webs, i would like to send them to you also but i dont have your e-mail. So you did. I found it in my spam folder, though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted December 2, 2004 Author Share Posted December 2, 2004 Originally posted by junk2drive: So, soon I will have my 70 troops fighting MR35s in Degania A ? Actually you'll have a few more Israelis than that - to include Moshe Dayan, I'm making it into an operation, covering five days. The tank attack on Degania will be day three. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted December 2, 2004 Author Share Posted December 2, 2004 Originally posted by Webs: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by oren_m: I have sent the translated maps to webs, i would like to send them to you also but i dont have your e-mail. So you did. I found it in my spam folder, though. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Possibly oren_m could send it to me, I could resend it to Hans. Any AIW grogs know what colour armour was used? TO&Es that I find show US Brit French and Soviet. Some salvaged from the desert, some purchased from European salavge yards. Were they repainted desert tan? camo? or left green? Any roundels on the turrets? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oren_m Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Hans! I'll try to send you the maps from my old yahoo mail 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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