war2004 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Hello, I took a look around the Internet using Google and Meta-Critic for a WW1 genre game but it seems the very few that are available are panned by the critics. My question is: Would you please recommend a WW1 game to me. I am wondering why there is so little interest in the WW1 genre for wargames. Perhaps, because it is mostly infantry just moving back and forth over no-manz-land and trenches being pounded by artillery and machine gun fire. Adding up to very little strategy. Comments welcome. Cordially Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by war2004: Hello, I took a look around the Internet using Google and Meta-Critic for a WW1 genre game but it seems the very few that are available are panned by the critics. My question is: Would you please recommend a WW1 game to me. I am wondering why there is so little interest in the WW1 genre for wargames. Perhaps, because it is mostly infantry just moving back and forth over no-manz-land and trenches being pounded by artillery and machine gun fire. Adding up to very little strategy. Comments welcome. Cordially You may want to learn the difference between strategy and tactics. What type of "game" are you looking for? a) PC board and a) tactical operational c) strategic One can think of examples of all of these, in classic form - from TRENCHFOOT to THE GUNS OF AUGUST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war2004 Posted November 20, 2004 Author Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by war2004: Hello, I took a look around the Internet using Google and Meta-Critic for a WW1 genre game but it seems the very few that are available are panned by the critics. My question is: Would you please recommend a WW1 game to me. I am wondering why there is so little interest in the WW1 genre for wargames. Perhaps, because it is mostly infantry just moving back and forth over no-manz-land and trenches being pounded by artillery and machine gun fire. Adding up to very little strategy. Comments welcome. Cordially You may want to learn the difference between strategy and tactics. What type of "game" are you looking for? a) PC board and a) tactical operational c) strategic One can think of examples of all of these, in classic form - from TRENCHFOOT to THE GUNS OF AUGUST. </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 The Guns of August, wasn't that an Avalon Hill board game? I didn't think they made that anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by Ted: The Guns of August, wasn't that an Avalon Hill board game? I didn't think they made that anymore. There are java versions out there - ie VASSAL, cyberboards, etc. Not sure if those systems specifically, but I have seen their name on those types of sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 I thought the Avalon Hill boardgame was 1914. I still love the dark shade of green they used for the German Corps. The map was gorgeous, but the hexes were a little cramped given all that went on in them. And it served as my introduction to Eisenbahnbautruppen. I remember the old S&T had a minimalist but interesting looking tactical wargame called Soldiers, that even had a Japanese assault on a German position in the Far East. Before its demise Command Magazine published several good treatments of WWI material, many by Ted Raicer. And then there's always Paths of Glory. Clash of Arms Games has a tactical game that deals with early tanks. I never digested the rules, but it did have a scenario that featured an infantry assault lead by a very junior officer named Erwin Rommel. I for one would kind of enjoy a computerized tactical treatment of WWI. Now I won't go into the fact that I'm sick enough to actually enjoy the Battle of the Somme (and yes, I want to watch a three week artillery barrage), but the static trench warfare that we associate with WWI only applied to the Western Front from 1915 to early 1918. The Eastern Front was too large for the stalemate to develop, and some of the fighting that went on there was really interesting. And the guy who probably had an affair with the author of "Out of Africa" waged what may have been one of the most brilliant guerilla campaigns in history. His African troops loved him, and fifty years later when the German government decided to give some kind of monetary compensation to ex-Askaris they found that many of them still remembered German military drill (I suspect that goose-stepping is not the kind of thing you would ever forget once you learned to do it). And when the Nazis tried to recruit him because he was one of Germany's few great WWI war heroes, he told them where to shove it. (And there's a Richard Berg game about this campaign). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 There was an interesting operational level boardgame from SPI years ago called To the Green Fields Beyond about the 1917 tank attack at Cambrai. As for a new game, I am inclined to think one on the strategic or operational level would be more interesting than one on the tactical level, although there may well be exceptions. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 war2004, anything that you would want to put an OT in front of the thread title, doesn't belong into this forum. Moving this to the General Discussion Forum. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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