Volker Posted April 18, 2003 Author Share Posted April 18, 2003 Well I can understand how you got to that point, but I was just stating the obvious, it is rather a mess, but that does not mean its COG's fault, thats not my point. People can toss any Mod they want on that site, I dont expect or would wish it on COG to have to look at every last one and put them in the right spots. Thats up to the Moders, simple by having that site is great. Im sure a Mod Board would go a long way to helping everyone. On your second point about BF, if the Community pushes it enough im sure they would give us a Mod board, you never know. And yes I agree, I do appreciate COG's work, I think we should all pitch in a buy him a Hallmark Card 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusOHGamer Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 Thanks to all the supporters of cmmods.com website. It's usually a 10:1 ratio of complaints vs. compliments and it's nice to hear you guys enjoy the site. I plan on keeping it going for a long time to come. Personally, I can't wait for the cache of mods that will follow CMAK. AK/Rommel is what first got me into WWII stuff so I welcome another few hundred mods. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusOHGamer Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 "BTS HAS NO PLANS FOR A MOD FORUM". (I put the caps in) That's a quote from MM replying to an email I sent requesting a new forum a few months ago. I don't think it's ever going to happen, although I still don't know why. Maybe there's stuff behind the scenes that we don't know about... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Canuck Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 Originally posted by ColumbusOHGamer: Thanks to all the supporters of cmmods.com website. It's usually a 10:1 ratio of complaints vs. compliments and it's nice to hear you guys enjoy the site. I plan on keeping it going for a long time to come. Happy to hear that, if your ever up in Nova Scotia the beer and lobster are on me!! Thanks again, KC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusOHGamer Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 Originally posted by Volker: True, but thats the point anyway. CMMods.com is like a 4 year olds bedroom. A total mess, people toss Mods in their all over the place. I found a Sound Mod in the Terrain area. Theirs just too much coming and going to keep up with. And on top of that, the Mod site is Sllllooooowwwwww like a snail. Sometimes it speeds up for a few then drops to a crawl. It would be nice to just have a place to go, where a Moder can post his or her work, tell me where to find it, and check it out. Let me preface this reply with the understanding that I'm not picking on Volker. He just happened to be the one to speak up about it. There always seems to be two complaints about my website...speed and organization. I don't mind the complaints, as long as they are somewhat helpful. It let's me know that something can be improved. Let's address these issues. Speed: I can't do a damn thing about it. Users complain, my wife complains and my son complains. Everybody wants more speed, but NO ONE WANTS TO PAY FOR IT. I don't have an extra $700/month for a T1 line for you guys. When you're pushing an average of 3+GB per day through a 384k connection, that doesn't leave a lot of room to work with. I hate to say, but you'll all just have to suffer with slow connection speeds. Organization: Now this issue has a tendency to frost my 'nads. I just went to the site, clicked on 'Search', typed in 'sound' and got back 28 mods, all of whom were in the right category. I hear too many complaints like "It's too hard to use", "It's too messy" and "I can't find anything". After working in the IT world for 15 years, I've come to realize that some (most?) people are too lazy, or in too much of a hurry, to read any kind of instructions or to take the time to look around a little. (Again, I'm not saying Volker is lazy, I'm just stating a general fact) If the mod author was silly enough (or simply made a mistake) to put his mod in the wrong category, then let them know about it. I wish I had the spare time to sit in front of my server and watch every mod that comes in to make sure it's in the right place, but I do have a life ya know. Besides, 90% of the organizational complaints are made because the user hasn't taken the time to look around a little. I think I've made it possible to sort by a sufficient number of ways to find whatever anyone needs, they just need to put a little more effort into it. Now, if there's something I can do to make the website more user friendly or easy to use, please let me know. Volker, tell me some specifics of your complaint and I'll look at making a change to fix the problem. I really do appreciate everyone's gratitude for the website. It's runnig pretty smooth now and I plan on keeping that way for a long time to come. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusOHGamer Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 I sent a note to Matt and asked again today if we could get a MOD only forum. This was the reply: Todd, I still dont think its very likely that we will create a dedicated Mod forum. Matt * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * www.battlefront.com Battlefront.com, Inc. Home of Superior War and Strategy Games Take it for what it's worth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted April 18, 2003 Share Posted April 18, 2003 The CMMODS site too messy? C'mon now! The only way for it to be cleaner and simpler is for him to refuse more mods, and delete about 70% of what he has! I think that site is the best thing since sliced bread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatEtr Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Kool, another opportunity to thank COG for his very user friendly mod site. COG you rock, thanks so much for this mod site. It's been a godsend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massimorocca Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 The only improvement for CMMODS would be, with so many mods now stored, a thumbnail page, like the old Cmoutpost or like the CMMOS main page, to keep at glace how the mod looks without be involved in the multiple path: first page, type, mod, big preview. I think that that could lower tha jam traffic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volker Posted April 19, 2003 Author Share Posted April 19, 2003 Everyones picking on me j/k heheh Well, heh, this thread was not supposed to be about CMMODs, and its gitting a tad off topic now, but i'll still answer. First let me say, no matter what, I still like CMMODs, and the work you have done. Now i'll answer you questions honestly, just keep in mind I still think your great To your first problem, speed. Do you have any idea just how many hits your site gets a day? If its as much as I think it is, why not stick some add on your site to help you make money from it? Why make money from it? The money you make from that site could go to speeding it up. I would be willing to stand a few adds to quickly look around the site. Now on to Organization, I use the Search when I have something to look for. But when I just want to look around at the Mods, and im not looking for any one certain mod, its a mess in terms of the listings under "Type". Maybe im just to use to CMHQ, I dont know. Just would like to see it better. I cant really offer you advise, I dont know what your limits are, but i'll try. Let me ask you this first, are you alone working on this site? Is it ONLY you doing the work? If the answer is yes, do you have any idea how much your missing out on guys wanting to help you? Their are guys out their just waiting to help you with your site, by adding Tab's, Art, Style, all types of things to get that site looking great, and who knows. You could always put a Post out their for some small aid. All things aside, im a big fan Still support a Mod Fourm, I think it would be good for us all. Originally posted by ColumbusOHGamer: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Volker: True, but thats the point anyway. CMMods.com is like a 4 year olds bedroom. A total mess, people toss Mods in their all over the place. I found a Sound Mod in the Terrain area. Theirs just too much coming and going to keep up with. And on top of that, the Mod site is Sllllooooowwwwww like a snail. Sometimes it speeds up for a few then drops to a crawl. It would be nice to just have a place to go, where a Moder can post his or her work, tell me where to find it, and check it out. Let me preface this reply with the understanding that I'm not picking on Volker. He just happened to be the one to speak up about it. There always seems to be two complaints about my website...speed and organization. I don't mind the complaints, as long as they are somewhat helpful. It let's me know that something can be improved. Let's address these issues. Speed: I can't do a damn thing about it. Users complain, my wife complains and my son complains. Everybody wants more speed, but NO ONE WANTS TO PAY FOR IT. I don't have an extra $700/month for a T1 line for you guys. When you're pushing an average of 3+GB per day through a 384k connection, that doesn't leave a lot of room to work with. I hate to say, but you'll all just have to suffer with slow connection speeds. Organization: Now this issue has a tendency to frost my 'nads. I just went to the site, clicked on 'Search', typed in 'sound' and got back 28 mods, all of whom were in the right category. I hear too many complaints like "It's too hard to use", "It's too messy" and "I can't find anything". After working in the IT world for 15 years, I've come to realize that some (most?) people are too lazy, or in too much of a hurry, to read any kind of instructions or to take the time to look around a little. (Again, I'm not saying Volker is lazy, I'm just stating a general fact) If the mod author was silly enough (or simply made a mistake) to put his mod in the wrong category, then let them know about it. I wish I had the spare time to sit in front of my server and watch every mod that comes in to make sure it's in the right place, but I do have a life ya know. Besides, 90% of the organizational complaints are made because the user hasn't taken the time to look around a little. I think I've made it possible to sort by a sufficient number of ways to find whatever anyone needs, they just need to put a little more effort into it. Now, if there's something I can do to make the website more user friendly or easy to use, please let me know. Volker, tell me some specifics of your complaint and I'll look at making a change to fix the problem. I really do appreciate everyone's gratitude for the website. It's runnig pretty smooth now and I plan on keeping that way for a long time to come. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusOHGamer Posted April 21, 2003 Share Posted April 21, 2003 Originally posted by Volker: First let me say, no matter what, I still like CMMODs, and the work you have done. Now i'll answer you questions honestly, just keep in mind I still think your great Awww shucks... To your first problem, speed. Do you have any idea just how many hits your site gets a day? If its as much as I think it is, why not stick some add on your site to help you make money from it? Why make money from it? The money you make from that site could go to speeding it up. I would be willing to stand a few adds to quickly look around the site. Been there, done that. I'm averaging ~10 pages per day. I tried putting ads and popups on the site, but either people bypassed them, or they didn't pay jack squat. Mostly the latter. At .01 per 1000 page hits, I was never going to make enough to run the site. It wasn't worth the hassle. Also allowed users to vote on if they would be willing to pay a minimum of $5/year to have the mod site. Quite a few said they would, but 60something% said they wouldn't pay anything to use it. So here we are. Now on to Organization, I use the Search when I have something to look for. But when I just want to look around at the Mods, and im not looking for any one certain mod, its a mess in terms of the listings under "Type". Maybe im just to use to CMHQ, I dont know. Just would like to see it better. You need to be more specific than "it's a mess". What is messy? How messy is it? What would you like to see different? I'm a pretty good programmer, but I've never mastered the art of reading the requester's mind. You give me something concrete and I'll try to change it. I cant really offer you advise, I dont know what your limits are, but i'll try. Let me ask you this first, are you alone working on this site? Is it ONLY you doing the work? If the answer is yes, do you have any idea how much your missing out on guys wanting to help you? Their are guys out their just waiting to help you with your site, by adding Tab's, Art, Style, all types of things to get that site looking great, and who knows. You could always put a Post out their for some small aid. Yes, I'm alone in this venture. I've already had a couple people offer to make graphics/design the site. That would be great if I was worried about how it looks, but I'm not. The more crap/graphics/fancy-cool-neato things I put on the page, the more it takes away from the speed for users to download. That's why I have NO graphics on the site. That's also why there are no thumbnail pics in the views. It would all just take more of what little bandwidth I've got. All things aside, im a big fan I'm glad to hear that! Still support a Mod Fourm, I think it would be good for us all. I agree 110%, but BF.C doesn't see it that way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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