Sergei Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 Originally posted by Marlow: Actually, you do raise an interesting point. Which of Schoerner's misguided views would you think fit confortably on the right side of the (American) political spectrum? I've found very little. Anti-socialism, anti-labour movement, anti-feminism and ultra-patriotism mayhaps? Dichotomies like left-right don't work very well with marginal views. I know one environmentalist who thinks the society shouldn't support people unable of living because it is against the nature. Not to mention liberalism-conservatism. The original liberalists spoke for both political and economic liberties, because those both were lacking in their time. Now it means one in Europe and the other in USA. A conservative communist in Russia would be very different from a US conservative republican. Sergei, a conservatively liberalleft-winger and liberally conservative right-winger (plus a mediocrily moderate centralist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 Originally posted by Axe2121: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Marlow: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Schoerner: You could also see, that blacks have different behaviour than white people (we don't eat our enemys, do we? ). Maybe you should learn history and find out, who mixed them up and was (like always) neglecting cultural and ethnic borders? You should also take a closer look at Zimbabwe, because of the following reason: it gives you a taste, how in a few decades the USA will end. It is rare that we get someone who is quite so open about their racist views. </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 I did think that in the US there was freedom of speech. I can't really understand why someone should be insulted or banned only for saying his own personal belief, he's not committing any crime. The USA perpretrated several genocides in the last 50 years but I would never insult all those who praise the American democracy for that reason. The only difference is that Americans are the winners and history is written by winners so that their genocides, their napalm-bombing, their embargoes are not taken into account. The USA are a democracy but this did not prevent them from being the only nation to launch an atomic bomb over other human beings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiggDogg Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 The USA are a democracy but this did not prevent them from being the only nation to launch an atomic bomb over other human beings Yes, and save hundreds of thousands of additional deaths and prevent the communist Russians from occupying part of Japan. If you think differently, you don't know your history. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlow Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 Originally posted by Romulus: The USA perpretrated several genocides in the last 50 years ... You have examples, or is this just a troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchildstein (ii) Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 Originally posted by Schoerner: Halmar Schacht. did you know that he was the nephew of horace greeley? it's in 'wall street and the rise of hitler' by antony c. sutton what amazes me about hitler was his utter sangfroid... especially for a guy with just one ball i mean to rise up from street life to command the wermacht... that was quite the run for the little corporal... myself... while anti-democratic... well the whole thing with having to address someone as 'leader' ... well that's a bit much for my tastes... and by the same token it would make me highly uncomfortable if others addressed me as such... in any event, while hitler may have been just a bizarre hystorical anomaly... well-loathed by his detractors and opponents at that... such in no way vindicates democracy... for democracy is a false religion... itself doomed to failure... having said all of that, hitler certainly had the 'slogans, scapegoats, and symbols' thing down pat... all it takes is a little hyperinflation and we'll see it all again... even though alas the 'three esses' might 'change' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiggDogg Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 Marlow, This Romulus character is a troll. Spin and no facts. Typical. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vyrdolak Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 Originally posted by Dave H: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Florian Gross: I think I heard this in my history course in school. I was quite sure about it, because there were german colonies in the US Actually I think King George III would have been very put out if he had known there were German colonies in North America. At the time of the Revolutionary War, most of the Germans on this side of the Atlantic were troops hired by the British.</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmatt Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 This thread is off topic so I am going to close it up now. If you wish, start it anew in the general forum but I am not going to move it as it is just barely skirting by being troll bair with some of the stuff being posted within. Madmatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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