Monty Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 As you can see on the picture, this AT guns got some arty (120 mm ) VERY closeby but was not knocked out (lucky for me) but why? Normally, the gun would have been toast. It was not under hq command. Is knocked out also abandened and could the crew been very fanatic ? Monty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukkov Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 yep, just luck.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted August 2, 2003 Author Share Posted August 2, 2003 Quick answer My next question is: Is knocked out mean the crew panicks and abanden the gun ( so experience and fanatism is very important) or is the knock out purely randomly and means the gun ITSELF is broken ? I hope its a mix of both....randomly for the damage by shell shrapnell and this would be toned down if the crew is experienced or under command. In my case the crew was veteran and not under command. But.....the shells were THAT close (behind the gun, where is no armor shield), you would expect some damage on the gun. I guess the shell holes are also abstracted ? Monty [ August 02, 2003, 05:33 PM: Message edited by: Monty ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auggy Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 IIRC, Knocked out is when the gun becomes unable to function any longer. Abandoned is when the crew either breaks or retreats, leaving a still somewhat working gun in place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 That's the infamous Rot Falk leading that gun crew! No wonder they didn't break. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted August 2, 2003 Author Share Posted August 2, 2003 Originally posted by Pvt. Ryan: That's the infamous Rot Falk leading that gun crew! No wonder they didn't break. Oh...you have good experiences with him ? Tell us please ! btw that wall in the V shape worked great for stopping mg and smallarms fire. Infact, this guncrew was one of the few units who had no casualties after the battle ended ( Draw ) Monty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shosties Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 That position probably would have been invulnerable to direct fire in 1.02. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Deadmarsh Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 A reverse slope behind a concrete wall--what a fortunate gun position for you...why can't I get those in my games? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 Also the gunner hiding in a foxhole means there's not much peeking above ground level, making it harder for artillery to dislodge him. This reminds me of one of the tales from that 'Black Hawk Down' Somalia incident. A number of U.S. soldiers were huddled together behind a wall when a grenade landed in the midst of them and exploded. To everyone's surprise not a single soldier was hit! Apparently, all the schrapnel went straight up. So sometimes weird things happen in combat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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