tooz Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Quick question(s)...Will the Greek Army be included in CMAK? :confused: They fought in Crete. I think having these guys inserted into the nationality mix shouldn't be too difficult--they didn't have too much in terms of weaponry. It would also make some interesting scenarios vs the Italians. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 I should imagine the voice files would be considerably more challenging than that... Brings to mind an old saw - What is motto of the Greek Airborne Regiment? "Death From Behind" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William amos Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 If add greeks then can get The Italian Invasion of Greece with mods. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalin's Organ Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 h it's a shame Greece isn't specifically included as a theatre of ops - we could even have partisan battles there after the occupation as well as the scenarios vs the Italians. AFAIK there's no official word on whether or not hte Greeks are going to be included for Crete. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maj. Battaglia Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 I'd also like to see the Greeks included. If they were you would not even need a mod for the invasion of Greece, since the Italians will be included. However, I also realize that the research required to accurately represent a new TO&E is not insubstantial. I think the sound files would be less an issue, although not without its own challenges. My choice for an additional nationality is Indian troops. The kit would not be difficult since they are outfitted with Commonwealth equipment. I think that the contribution of non-European (and descendant) troops to the British cause is sometimes overlooked. There were more than Indian troops who fall into this category, of course, but they were the most important in terms of number. For example, during Crusader, there were 4 Indian brigades involved (and 3 NZ and 5 SA) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalin's Organ Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Funny you should mention research into Greek TO&E's - a mate of mine has done a fair bit on the subject The defence of Greece 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McClaire Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Well, there were some Greek units on Crete at the time of the German invasion, so technically speaking there were Greek troops involved in a location CMAK is said to specifically cover. However, the bulk of the fighting was done by the Kiwis, so I wouldn't be suprised if we don't hear Greek. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 There were also Greek troops in North Africa, they fought at El Alamein. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzermartin Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Thanks for bringing this up tooz. As a greek, I think it will be really interesting and I'd love to play some CM mountain battles during the italian and later the german campaign. Really, why is only Crete included and not the whole axis campaign in Greece? The terrain tiles would be much similar with those for the mountainous Italian theatre and Crete. As for weaponry, there isn't much to model here that is not already present in the allied armies simulated in CM series. Rifles, maxims, mortars, infantry guns and voila!... the Greek army. I think BFC must seriously consider including the greek army in CMAK. It will be a letdown to leave out of the scope of CM an army that handed Axis its first major defeat. P.S I'd be more than happy to help in recording some "Aeraaaaaaa!" wav files 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooz Posted May 20, 2003 Author Share Posted May 20, 2003 Parakalo! Panzerman. My purpose for this thread was to elicit some response and support for the Greeks. The fear of Greek voices for the WAV files is specious. How many NEW WAV files are actually going to be included in CMAK? Look at CMBB. There are Russian, Italian, Finnish,Hungarian and Romanian new WAV files created. Now ask yourself this, how many NEW languages are required for CMAK that are NOT already available? Where's the problem? Are they going to have new WAV files JUST FOR ACCENTS? With apologies to the 'stralians I don't give a tinkard's cuss if we don't hear "let's piss off! Fair Dinkum?" shouts from the 'stralian troops. So, what's the problem? Use Italian WAV files for the Italians and their colonial troops, French for Vichy, Free and colonial (Spahi's, Goumiers, et. al), and English for the Commonwealth. The Indian troops also could just use English (I dread hearing a Sikh Jemadar sounding like that charecter from the Simpsons). :mad: I am certain BFC will not go into dialects--there are TOO many. Besides, many of these "Indian troops" are really Pakistani (the Baluchs, for example). So the excuse of WAV files does not make sense. Most of the bmps required are already available. Let's face it, is everyone going to play desert battles? I doubt it. Don't be surprised if you see a lot of CMBO scenarios revised under the CMAK format. Instead of scenario retreads, let's create boundless opportunities for new and unique scenarios. Omitting the Greeks is, IMHO an egregious omission. Maybe a few free bottles of Ouzo for the BFC boys will help persuade them? Kali nikto! :cool: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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