Bruno Weiss Posted February 22, 2003 Share Posted February 22, 2003 Now yesterday I noted on thread that I had just watched an opponent run a whole platoon head long smack through the center of an AP mine field without so much as a bird stop singing. Today, I watched in curiosity as two of my opponents tanks roll right through AT mines sitting in a road that cuts through a forest. So there is no clear area to the left or right, and the road is AT mined. Two tanks go blazing right through and nothing, nada, zippo happens. I'm wondering if someone could maybe mod some Burma Shave slogans on the mine signs for decorative purposes. Kinda give the enemy crews something to read as they go whizzing through the mine fields. :confused: [ February 22, 2003, 03:46 PM: Message edited by: Bruno Weiss ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike the wino2 Posted February 22, 2003 Share Posted February 22, 2003 Hhhmm sounds like the elusive, uber-secret hover-tank in action there. I very rarely purchase mines because of the issues that you have mentioned here Bruno . Can't move them so if the enemy makes a rush along an alternate route you have just wasted points. And once they are revealed the lose their usefulness as your opponent runs around them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Radley Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Know exactly what you mean. More than once I've relied on some artfully placed AT mines to save my bacon and then at the moment of truth, have the tanks roll right over them with no effect. As a matter of fact, I've found that AT mines don't work more often than they do work. Anybody have any idea why this is? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Just watched 3 Tigers go through a field. Well actually only one got through the other side... Dems da breaks... H 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Petersson Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Minefields are good and effective! The trick is to realise that a single unit (or "patch" as I prefer to call them) of mines have just above 50% chance of hitting a crossing vehicle, and use them accordingly. To block a route you'll need to either force the enemy to pass more than one patch, cover the route with other AT weapons OR use road blocks instead. Mines also have a psychological effect. Once spotted vehicles tend to avoid them. Therefore Daisy-chains can be more efficient than hidden patches for blocking a route. Daisy-chains are no match to remove if the attacker has engineers available, but it's not always so. To conclude: Mines are good and efficient within their limitations. Plan the effect you want, and pick your type of mines depending on that. Then place them in a manner where they can perform the desired effect. Minefields not overrun are not a waste of points, but replace an ATG or other assets that would otherwise be necessary to cover that area. Cheers Olle 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMuhammed Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Have to agree with Olle, I don't think I have had a German vehicle successfully drive through a minefield yet. Russians sometimes will but their lower ground pressure gave them a better survival chance in RL as well. [ February 22, 2003, 07:35 PM: Message edited by: sgtGOody ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three_Oh_Eight Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Questions for the more experienced: What is the dimension and coverage of a minefield? Does it match the square graphic visible during set up? Can minefields overlap, to better effect? Thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Up until now I have had quite good success with minefields. If defending I would almost always buy some (of all types) I have killed a lot of AFVs with them. I don't think I have ever seen an AFV cross an AT mine without dying, though I have seen infantry manage to cross AP mines on occasion. Either I have had very good luck or you have had very bad luck I would say (unless of course patch 1.02 reduced their effectiveness) A useful trick I have used with daisy chain mines is to use them to shepherd AFVs onto your AT mines. I have had so much success with this that my daisy chain mines are now effectively twice as wide to some of my regular opponents as they won't risk going anywhere near them. I have tried the same trick with barbed wire onto AP mines but it is not nearly as effective (or rewarding) [ February 22, 2003, 09:16 PM: Message edited by: Caesar ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Originally posted by Three_Oh_Eight: Questions for the more experienced: What is the dimension and coverage of a minefield? Does it match the square graphic visible during set up? Can minefields overlap, to better effect? Thanks! Hi, IMO the graphic is preety spot on for coverage. Overlapping does help increase the chance of a hit. A good way to increase chances is by rotating them into along the axis you expect the tank to travel down. E.g. Road rotate the square so it's two opposite corners are on the road hence giving slightly longer distance for a tank to travel throug the mines. Then overlap slightly either side with another AT mine. This will give broad but overlapped coverage. H 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-E Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Originally posted by Bruno Weiss: I'm wondering if someone could maybe mod some Burma Shave slogans on the mine signs for decorative purposes. Kinda give the enemy crews something to read as they go whizzing through the mine fields. You mean like "Eat at Joe's" or "Tourist Attraction 100m"? Or did you mean like War & Peace (for King Tiger crews to read)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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