Hans Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 I have just read "In deadly combat" by Gottlob Bidermann who served most of WWII on the Eastern front. An excellent book it had several graphic descriptions of his early days as a 37mm Pak gunner. Later as a Leutnant in July 1944 he came into a village and was attacked by two T-26s! I was suprized to see that T-26s were still being used (in the Northern or Central sector). Recommended book ISBN 0-7006-1122-3 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 T-26's? Wow, I had thought only Finnish Army used them at that time... At that time in Finland, there was a Soviet tank reported as destroyed by a Finnish PFaust team, which wasn't of any known Russian type. Based on description, it probably was a L&L M3 Grant. In 1944! :eek: Maybe they belonged to a penal battalion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpkr Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Yes -- I'm in the process of converting some of his experiences into scenarios. Try "Klein Kargarlyk" available at the Scenario Depot. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG-42 Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Great book..so good I also went and bought a Hardback version for my library. Currently close to completing a similar book entitled "Blood Red Snow." Features the experiences of an Eastern Front heavy machine gunner...very graphical...and very very sad. Great text commentary about the time his division were issued their first Ferdinands and how devestating they were against T-34's etc. [ February 18, 2003, 05:33 PM: Message edited by: MG-42 ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbb Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Originally posted by Hans: I have just read "In deadly combat" by Gottlob Bidermann who served most of WWII on the Eastern front. An excellent book it had several graphic descriptions of his early days as a 37mm Pak gunner. Later as a Leutnant in July 1944 he came into a village and was attacked by two T-26s! I was suprized to see that T-26s were still being used (in the Northern or Central sector). Recommended book ISBN 0-7006-1122-3 Definitely a good book. As for the T-26s, I suspect they were actually T-70s. CBB 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Originally posted by MG-42: Currently close to completing a similar book entitled "Blood Red Snow." Features the experiences of an Eastern Front heavy machine gunner on the Eastern Front...very graphical...and very sad. Great text commentary about the time his division were issued their first Ferdinands and how devestating they were against T-34's etc. Right up till they abandoned them. Did you ever figure out the unit? I thought he was originally in a Cavalry division. {edited because I missed your edit} [ February 18, 2003, 05:30 PM: Message edited by: Lars ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmatt Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Speaking of books... We have just added a new Bibliography page for CMBB which lists some of the best books available on the Eastern Front. All books are on sale from Amazon and we have included links to order from them for your convenience. http://www.battlefront.com/products/cmbb/biblio.html Madmatt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG-42 Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Originally posted by Lars: Did you ever figure out the unit? I thought he was originally in a Cavalry division. {edited because I missed your edit} Lars, I re-edited my post again He wasn't in 21.Infanterie-Division. He was in a cavalry division - the 24. Panzer-Division (The Leaping Horsemen) in one of the regiments who escaped the Stalingrad encirclement. All I can tell you about the introduction of the Ferdinands was that he first references them on 23rd November 1943 at the Nikopol Bridgehead Hope that helps and apologies for my previous errors..the words dumb and ass spring to mind Regards MG [ February 18, 2003, 05:52 PM: Message edited by: MG-42 ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpig Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Wha? I didn't know any thing larger than a company (or so) of men ever escaped the Stalingrad encirclement. Were there other large units that escaped Stalingrad? Thanks, Gpig 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpkr Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Hans, I'll send you Klein Kargarlyk if you will email me. Also, if you are interested, I would love your input on the next couple of IDC scenarios I put out. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Originally posted by Gpig: Wha? I didn't know any thing larger than a company (or so) of men ever escaped the Stalingrad encirclement. Were there other large units that escaped Stalingrad? Thanks, Gpig He probably means a regiment that was not encircled? There is an interesting book out on the division check it out on www.laapinghorseman.com 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Originally posted by MrSpkr: Yes -- I'm in the process of converting some of his experiences into scenarios. Try "Klein Kargarlyk" available at the Scenario Depot. Steve Excellent, I loved that book and was thinking of making a scenario or two out of it. Saved me some time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG-42 Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Originally posted by Gpig: Wha? I didn't know any thing larger than a company (or so) of men ever escaped the Stalingrad encirclement. Were there other large units that escaped Stalingrad? Thanks, Gpig Gpig, The author was shipped in as part of newly recruited and trained reinforcements for 24. Panzer-Division. Although he did take part in a supply run into the centre of Stalingrad soon after arrival, he returned to Division Supply Depot out on the steppe, where soon after he escaped as the threat of encirclement became imminent Apologies for genralising things to the extent that it has caused confusion Kindest MG 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpkr Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Originally posted by V: Excellent, I loved that book and was thinking of making a scenario or two out of it. Saved me some time. Don't forget to review it! Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Originally posted by MrSpkr: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by V: Excellent, I loved that book and was thinking of making a scenario or two out of it. Saved me some time. Don't forget to review it! Steve </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted February 19, 2003 Author Share Posted February 19, 2003 Mr Spkr and V Yes I marked about half a dozen "made for CMBB" scenarios. We should coordinate and not duplicate efforts. The two I was most interested in was the first encounter with Soviet tanks in the village (which I suspect has already been done) and the second one was the "escape" which involved the T-26s/T-70s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Those tanks may have been T60s - ISTR that they were last used in significant numbers in the Winter 1943/4 Leningrad offensive. Quite late, considering they had been off the TO&E from about August 1942. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Originally posted by MG-42: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Lars: Did you ever figure out the unit? I thought he was originally in a Cavalry division. {edited because I missed your edit} Lars, I re-edited my post again He wasn't in 21.Infanterie-Division. He was in a cavalry division - the 24. Panzer-Division (The Leaping Horsemen) in one of the regiments who escaped the Stalingrad encirclement. All I can tell you about the introduction of the Ferdinands was that he first references them on 23rd November 1943 at the Nikopol Bridgehead Hope that helps and apologies for my previous errors..the words dumb and ass spring to mind Regards MG </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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