Liam Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Joining: Write to StrategicScores@AOL.COM with your SC forum name and the same active E-Mail in your Forum Profile.<to change your forum E-Mail write to forum@battlefront.com <forum@battlefront.com> and have them make the necessary adjustment at your request, if they are unhelpful list your E-mail with me> Request to Join: You will receive a return confirmation. Note: You must list your E-mail in your Profile. You cannot have two separate Names and will be erased if discovered. Rating System: Everyone starts with 0 games despite former Ladder. Every victory you will earn 1 victory point<this will be the new system> it will be listed and updated here on the Forum under this Topic. Every loss you will lose 1 victory point. At the end of one month the system will adapt in this form: Top Ten Rated will only earn +1 VP per victory. Players 11th or lesser will earn +2 VP for beating a Top10 rated player and +3 VP for defeating the #1 rated player. The Top10 will only receive +2 VP defeating the #1 rated player. The #1 rated player will lose -5 VP to anyone outside of the Top Ten and -3 VP to anyone in the Top Ten. At the end of 6 months, any player that is -victory points will be cleared of all their debt. At the end of 30 days a player that hasn't finished a single game will be -5 VPs. How to Start a game: You Post a subject in Opponent Finder Forum requesting a SC: Rated Game. House rules are acceptable. "No Point Trading will be tolerated!" This system is based off Fall Weiss 1939 Scenario only. Once you've made a match to another player who is signed up you will then have agree to upon your own Rules and Bidding... After all agreements are met and you both "Confirm" your willingness to proceed, start your game. Games will be finished within 30 days<or else>. Wins & Losses: Will be reported VIA: E-Mail to StrategicScores@AOL.COM, if you wish you may also post your victory in this thread. In case of a possible dispute. Include all valid information and data for GM to make a Ruling. Reschedule or Cheating: If you must reschedule then decide amongst yourselves. Each Player's E-mail is available via their Profile you can obtain by going back and checking the original date the game was Posted and clicking on their name in the Forum Thread Posting. If you have a problem finding a way to contact them file the complaint with me at StrategicScores@AOL.COM <If E-mail it isn't listed!> If a player does not respond with valid E-mail with an explanation in 10 days, you may claim victory. Cheating will not be allowed and will not happen. We uphold to the highest standards of WarGamers On-Line if any is met it will stomped out like a Roach. How the Bidding system works: The bid system for games in this same is the newly invented "UK+USA+Russia cash handicap system". UK+USA+Russia System: The handicap level is a cash amount bonus for those THREE countries EACH. The highest bidder gets Axis and the other player gets Allied with the cash bonus level added to UK AND USA AND Russia. Example: Player A posts on the opponent forum: "SC ladder game" Player B replies "I bid 100 MPP. Player A replies "accepted" (ofcourse he could have raised the bid instead). Player B will get Axis since he bid the highest bid. The host (either A or modifies and saves a new scenario (based on the 1939 Fall Weiss scenario) so that USA gets 100 MPP bonus AND UK gets 100 MPP bonus AND Russia gets 100 MPP bonus. That means that the HOST will 1) Start the campaign editor 2) Open Campaign (1939 Fall Weiss.cgn). 3) Edit campaign data by setting the UK+USA+Russia MPP on the bid level (in this case 100 MPP). 4) Saving the scenario as preferably the name of the other player. 5) The host starts SC TCP/IP and picks the newly created scenario. If no player wants to bid or only bids 0 MPP the game can be played with the original 1939 Fall Weiss scenario instead i.e no campaign editor will be needed. Axis DOW USA rule: Axis may NOT declare war against the USA since a bug will then robb the USA of their cash handicap bonus. If Axis declares war against USA they have lost and Allies can claim the win. Why would Axis declare war against USA anyway? To Retire notify me ASAP...Your stats will be kept if you have a long standing history... [ May 13, 2003, 07:17 PM: Message edited by: Liam ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl G. E. von Mannerheim Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 I Like this, but we should set an end date for the current ladder. Lets also see if we can find a site to host this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl G. E. von Mannerheim Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 http://www.mygamingladder.com/ take a look at this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl G. E. von Mannerheim Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Actually, take a look at http://www.myleague.com/my/create.php Just say the word, and Ill make the ladder here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka of Carthage Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 I agree. I believe you should start this at the beginning of a new month. Gives everyone two (2) weeks to prepare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88mm Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Nice to see you already thinking ahead while i ain't leaving yet. thks for the support and the interest.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka of Carthage Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 88mm Hmmmm... I was under the impression that you were backing out. I'll leave that for you and Liam to figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Don't be too hard on the Ladder system. There are many positive, The Ladder is located on this website which makes it easy for the new guys to "sign-in" & become a part. I guess a link would solve that. It has obvious holes, but why not fix the rankings some how? Remember, every ranking system has problems. Check out NCAA College Football bowl system. Maybe we should just adjust the current system? 88mm, if you're going to run it, do it. One of your posts gave us the opinion you didn't want to. I will now stay out of the management part, & will give my input if asked about the rules. Doing my job, Hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted May 14, 2003 Author Share Posted May 14, 2003 Interesting site CvM. What do you think of them? I am alright at basic web design though I wouldn't mind the assistance of another as far as that is concerned. I had the impression 88 wanted out too??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wachtmeister Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 I'm not too concerned about the ladder rating rules as long as they are reasonably simple and fair. I would, however, like to see the ladder remain on this site. As Rambo pointed out, there are numerous advantages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88mm Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 i have a simple but vey effective in mind; winning standard to start the ladder: 10 points a battle. When one of the players arrives at 100 points, the new rules are going into action: 1) Winning from the Ladder-champ = 100 points 2) Winning from a Top 5 (2-5) player = 80 points 3) playing a draw against the Ladder-champ = 60 points 4) Playing a draw against a Top 5 player = 40 points (these are all wins/draws from players ranked 6 and below) when the ladder-champ wins, he gets a minimum of 10 point vs. any player below 5 and 20 points for beating a top 5 player. when a Top 5 player beats the champ: 50 points and 20 for a draw. When they win against a other Top 5 player = 20 points (draw=zero) Winning vs. lower classed players = 10 points (draw=zero) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl G. E. von Mannerheim Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Hey, I'm all for keeping the ladder under 88mm i like this new points system but guys, remember, i can be made easier for the moderator, if he hosts it on this site, HE WILL STILL RUN IT, but the host will facilitate his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88mm Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Carl: Maybe i can use the webspace from my ISP, 20 megs. also i have HTML skills (can make sites with notepad ) to make a nice site... Anyway, think we should vote for the new rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpitfireMarkX Posted May 17, 2003 Share Posted May 17, 2003 I like that system fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well-dressed gentleman Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 I hope 88 or whoever accepts the job realizes how much work the point system will be, unless they find a way to automate it. Also, why are we limiting ladder games to Fall Weiss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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