Jasper Posted January 10, 2001 Share Posted January 10, 2001 Mark Twain. From: IMPACT OF THE HUMAN DIMENSION ON A THREE-MAN-CREW TANK The Soviets arguably produced one of the best tanks available before and during World War 11, the 5-man-crew T-34. Subsequent improved Soviet tank models were evolved from @ basic design. Their analysis tbLat 90% of the hits made on a tank occurred above a meter from the ground resulted in a prime design imperative to lower the frontal profile of the tank. (Garbage characters intentionally uncorrected.) I wouldn't call this a 'fact' but it makes a fun story: the space inside the initial T-34's was so cramped that the Soviets gave preference to smaller people to crew the tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chupacabra Posted January 10, 2001 Share Posted January 10, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jasper: I wouldn't call this a 'fact' but it makes a fun story: the space inside the initial T-34's was so cramped that the Soviets gave preference to smaller people to crew the tanks.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ...including quite a few women. ------------------ Soy super bien soy super super bien soy bien bien super bien bien bien super super Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los Posted January 10, 2001 Share Posted January 10, 2001 Keep in mind that the T34 didn't become five man until mid-war it originally had a two man turret crew much to the detriment of crew efficiency. They fixed this in later models. Los Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Posted January 10, 2001 Share Posted January 10, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jasper: Mark Twain. I wouldn't call this a 'fact' but it makes a fun story: the space inside the initial T-34's was so cramped that the Soviets gave preference to smaller people to crew the tanks. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> So did the Germans: Michael Wittman was practicaly a midget... Henri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109 Gustav Posted January 10, 2001 Share Posted January 10, 2001 Isn't this still true with the T-72, that average sized people are usually too big for the tank? ------------------ Well my skiff's a twenty dollar boat, And I hope to God she stays afloat. But if somehow my skiff goes down, I'll freeze to death before I drown. And pray my body will be found, Alaska salmon fishing, boys, Alaska salmon fishing. -Commercial fishing in Kodiak, Alaska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence Posted January 10, 2001 Share Posted January 10, 2001 Most, if not all soviet tanks would be better suited for a species of robotic dwarves than for the humans they are supposed to carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Beman Posted January 11, 2001 Share Posted January 11, 2001 Speaking of this, anybody see the movie The Beast, about a Soviet tank that got lost in Afghanistan? How'd they cram FIVE guys in that tank? DjB ps I know it was fiction. At first view of the movie I thought "why are they so off base? They should have only 3 men." But then realized that the personal drama needed 5 characters for the movie to work. [This message has been edited by Doug Beman (edited 01-11-2001).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Petersson Posted January 16, 2001 Share Posted January 16, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jasper: ... the best tanks available before and during World War 11, --- Their analysis tbLat 90% of the hits made on a tank occurred above a meter from the ground resulted in a prime design imperative to lower the frontal profile of the tank.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>World War Eleven!?! I must have slept through most of my history classes... About the analysis; this is the reason the S-tank was made with such a low profile. And the suggested 2-man crew was scrapped because the tankers didn't want it. (Something about each crew members burdon with maintenance, not a need for combat.) Cheers Olle ------------------ Srategy is the art of avoiding a fair fight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Weiss Posted January 16, 2001 Share Posted January 16, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Michael Wittman was practicaly a midget...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Ah but he was large in stature. ------------------ "Gentlemen, you may be sure that of the three courses open to the enemy, he will always choose the fourth." -Field Marshal Count Helmuth von Moltke, (1848-1916) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bredberg Posted January 16, 2001 Share Posted January 16, 2001 Hi, Indeed the Russian tanks are build for the smaller portion of the population. When the Swedish army bought a number of T-72s they had a hard time finding tank crew to evaluate them. T-72s cramped space require a 1.65m man, while the S-tank is fair for a 1.80m crew although not spacious. The S-tank can easily been used with a 1-man crew, and fully combat operational with a 2-man crew, however the non-combat duties is not fun even with a 3-man crew. A platoon of 10-12 man is not optimal when maintaining defense structure around the camp as well as doing maintenance on the tank. It was fun but tiring! Cheers Jonas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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