Jagdcarcajou Posted February 27, 2001 Author Share Posted February 27, 2001 Hey, Well, as promised, here are the British and Canadian versions. Give a shout if you would like to see these hosted somewhere! UK Canada Enjoy! Chris ------------------ What the hell is a Jagdcarcajou? CM Recon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shatter Posted February 27, 2001 Share Posted February 27, 2001 Jagdcarcajou are you posting them at Rob/1 site because I would sure like to have them all. I have (I think) all that are available and change them often. These are very good and I look foward to having them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin Cracauer Posted February 27, 2001 Share Posted February 27, 2001 Originally posted by MantaRay: Sadly our society would rather forget everything and pretend we live at DisneyWorld. I for one know kids of today have very little knowledge of why this symbol is so linked with evil of times past. I have often seen the opinion that the German law against Nazi symbol use is meant to pretend that the third reich never existed. While I am not 100% convinced that the law is good as it is, let me explain some things about it: First of all, usage of Nazi symbols (more precisely: "Symbols of organizations hostile to the constitution") is not entirely forbitten. You are allowed to use it for educational purposes and in fact German history books (and schoolbooks) don't hide it at all. German history teaching is first class, BTW, especially when it comes to the 20th century, including the militarism that lead to WW1. This law is used as a tool. On right-wing demonstrations, it allows you to arrest people showing these signs (including the Hitler greeting) or to disband the demonstrarion. You have to know that the right to demonstrate is under special protection in Germany, comparable to the right of free speech in the U.S. If you wouldn't have this law, you couldn't do much against mobs in the streets celebrating Hitler, the NSDAP and the third reich. And people try to do that in increasing strength for 10 years now. Originally posted by MantaRay: To bottle it up and try to hide it from view is one reason it remains such a powerful symbol to anyone who still holds on to the sick beliefs, or is foolish enough to be led to this by others. I have to agree to this point. The usage as a tool I just described faded away within the last two years. The right-wing people learned a lot. Nowaday's they don't do stupid marches in the intention to tangle with the police and get a bloody nose. Nowaway the leaders go far to avoid any illegal activity on such demonstrations. And they turn any law that could be considered unbalanced in its left/right coverage and/or any law that could be interpreted as lowering constitution rights for right-wing people only to their own advantage, by pointing out possible unfairness. Of course, it doesn't matter even slightly whether some of these laws are in fact unfair or not. Neither the state, the police nor the right-wing people care. However, when you deliver ammunition to people you are fighting, something goes wrong. Forbidding third reich symbols on things like models (even model railroads) and in games is questionable anyway. It seems to me that this is the major source of the misconceptions other country's people have about these laws. Martin [This message has been edited by Martin Cracauer (edited 02-27-2001).] [This message has been edited by Martin Cracauer (edited 02-27-2001).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibenholt Posted February 27, 2001 Share Posted February 27, 2001 I think that it is wrong to make laws that criminalize people because of what they believe. I live in Denmark where freedom of speech is a cornerstone of our society. Even though I am disgusted by the views of the nazis, they have the right to believe what they want and the right to use the symbols of their beliefs in public. Of course, should the nazis commit a crime they should be punished, freedom of speech is not a shield that can be used so people are allowed to threaten others. I strongly believe that by criminalizing these organizations and their symbols, they are made even more mysterious and attractive to young people. When they are allowed to demonstrate in public they are exposed as what they are: Confused people, frightened by a world they cannot comprehend. To outlaw them would make martyrs of them, "fighters for freedom outlawed by a cruel and unjust system", I can see the propaganda material now. Anyway that's what I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SS Peiper Posted February 27, 2001 Share Posted February 27, 2001 is anybody going to host the new start-up screens??? SS Peiper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagdcarcajou Posted February 27, 2001 Author Share Posted February 27, 2001 Hey all, Well, I tried to send them to Rob/1 but his email bounced them. They are still rather large, even zipped. Each file is between 3.6 and 5 Mbs. They are large because they are still 24 bit color hi res images. I don't particularly want to reduce the quality to shrink their size. Thanks for the offer Rob/1. I appreciate it. If no one else can help out, these will have to go in the dust bin till CMHQ is back up, or I decide to fork over the cash for a domain. Chris ------------------ What the hell is a Jagdcarcajou? CM Recon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogface Posted February 27, 2001 Share Posted February 27, 2001 Originally posted by Jagdcarcajou: snip** Well, I tried to send them to Rob/1 but his email bounced them. \ I don't particularly want to reduce the quality to shrink their size. snip** Chris Chris i can host them and I dont think my mail will bounce them... give it a try ------------------ Berlin calling, Berlin calling, when Berlin calls it pays to listen..... ----------------------------------------- http://ponyshow.com some screenshots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob/1 Posted February 28, 2001 Share Posted February 28, 2001 Originally posted by Jagdcarcajou: Hey all, Well, I tried to send them to Rob/1 but his email bounced them. They are still rather large, even zipped. Each file is between 3.6 and 5 Mbs. They are large because they are still 24 bit color hi res images. I don't particularly want to reduce the quality to shrink their size. Thanks for the offer Rob/1. I appreciate it. If no one else can help out, these will have to go in the dust bin till CMHQ is back up, or I decide to fork over the cash for a domain. Chris Thats because my Hotmail is down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MantaRay Posted February 28, 2001 Share Posted February 28, 2001 Jag, you said they bounced to me too. My Outlook was screwed up for about 12 hours, try to resend them to me, or email me and I will give ya an FTP to send them to. Ray ------------------ When asked, "How many moves do you see ahead?", CAPABLANCA replied: "One move - the best one." Click now for shelter from the Peng thread New Site of the PLA:Rugged Defense Group Ladder The Red Army Mirror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shatter Posted February 28, 2001 Share Posted February 28, 2001 Jagdcarcajou would you consider sending them to me. I do not have a site, but I sure would love to have them. They are very good and I know they will go through my E-mail without a problem. Please Please Please I would owe you one. Brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagdcarcajou Posted February 28, 2001 Author Share Posted February 28, 2001 Hey all, Ok, I have decided to host these one at a time on my site! I appreciate all the kind words and the offers to host. The first set available (in all resolutions) is the "USA" version. It is available on the Mods page of my site (along with my crappy King Tiger - thanks Kitty, make me look bad). I will be replacing it next week, and each Wednesday after that, until they have all been hosted at least once. Once again, thanks for the encouragement. I consider this a small accomplishment compared to the "mod kings" whose images grace my splash screens, but a small improvement nonetheless. Enjoy! Chris ------------------ What the hell is a Jagdcarcajou? CM Recon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted February 28, 2001 Share Posted February 28, 2001 Originally posted by Jagdcarcajou: It is available on the Mods page of my site (along with my crappy King Tiger - thanks Kitty, make me look bad It's not crappy. =( Kitty ------------------ Hamsters at War! Chicks With Tanks Lorak's FTX "I'd rather the Bees than your Mask of Shame." - Stuka The True Blue Aussie Slang Source The Unofficial Vic Bitter Website Jesus Dress Up! The McNoldy Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagdcarcajou Posted February 28, 2001 Author Share Posted February 28, 2001 Originally posted by Kitty: It's not crappy. =( Kitty LOL, Well, I think it is. But hey, we are our own worst critics, right? Thanks though. BTW, that was a joke, I just forgot the . Chris ------------------ What the hell is a Jagdcarcajou? CM Recon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Weiss Posted March 1, 2001 Share Posted March 1, 2001 Bumpity bump ------------------ "Gentlemen, you may be sure that of the three courses open to the enemy, he will always choose the fourth." -Field Marshal Count Helmuth von Moltke, (1848-1916) [This message has been edited by Bruno Weiss (edited 03-01-2001).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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