Warren Peace Posted July 19, 2001 Share Posted July 19, 2001 I am in the middle of reading Belton Cooper's memoirs entitled "Death Traps". A very interesting read. Cooper says that the most effective anti-tank weapons that the 3rd armored division had were the M7 Priests !? It seems that there 105 howitzers in indirect fire mode broke off many a tank attack because German top armor was quite thin. In CM the M7 only fires directly, so this can not directly be modeled, but using foward observers for 105's this should be simulatable. However, in my experience 105 shells are just not effective at killing real german armor (although 8 inch shells work well). So who is right CM or Cooper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin Posted July 19, 2001 Share Posted July 19, 2001 I'd like to second the recommendation of this book. Essential reading for anyone interested in ETO armored warfare, written by an expert who lived through it as a maintainance officer with the 3rd Armored Division. [ 07-19-2001: Message edited by: Gremlin ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWB Posted July 19, 2001 Share Posted July 19, 2001 I will also reccomend the book, it is a very good first person account from someone who had a good idea of the larger picture when in combat. I think the effectiveness of arty vs. tanks has less to do with outright destruction and more to do with discouragement. Quite simply, no sane person is going to sit thru a barrage if they can drive out of it. WWB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted July 19, 2001 Share Posted July 19, 2001 99 nailed it. Priests didn't kill a lot, but nobody likes big-ass explosions in close proximity, even when you're in an afv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Peace Posted July 19, 2001 Author Share Posted July 19, 2001 If this is the case, shouldn't it be modeled in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DekeFentle Posted July 19, 2001 Share Posted July 19, 2001 Modeling AFV moral in CMBB I think will address this to some extent. Causing vehicles to button up alone in early war years will severely reduce their ability to communicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Johnson-- Posted July 19, 2001 Share Posted July 19, 2001 CM2 will give tanks morale. As is, if you get 6 105mm FOs and a bunch of TRPs, slap down a Panther Abtulung then start fireing, you will beat up some of those tanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak Posted July 20, 2001 Share Posted July 20, 2001 Its important to note that tank morale will be optional, or so I believe. [ 07-19-2001: Message edited by: Freak ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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