-Havermeyer- Posted February 10, 2001 Share Posted February 10, 2001 Oh, yeah. The Nashorn is a definite POS, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted February 11, 2001 Share Posted February 11, 2001 Originally posted by Shadow 1st Hussars: See above. It's all about how it's employed. Personally, I'd prefer them to remain unemployed. Regards Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike777 Posted February 11, 2001 Share Posted February 11, 2001 I thnik that the jeep is just useless id it doesn't have an MG. Even as a scout, it's hust too vulnerable. Once I saw two tigers, a PzGmkIV, and some light armor in a climp behind some woods. So I send the jeep up. It sees them just as sound contacts. Then I use a real heavy barrage-155mms, 105mms,even a few 81mm and 60mm mortars. Guess whicth vehicle gets knocked out on the first turn of artillery falling- the jeep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted February 11, 2001 Share Posted February 11, 2001 My god it's been awhile!!! The Nashorn is pretty much useless. I think the problem is that people know how crappy the armour is so they're not scared of it. The H-39 isn't that bad. It can at least suppress some troops. The one vehicle I've never used is the Marder II. ------------------ And if we abandon any platform, I can assure you it will not be the Macintosh. -Steve My website! A major source of Wild Bill scenarios! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntg84 Posted February 11, 2001 Share Posted February 11, 2001 A Macintosh and Trucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinty Posted February 12, 2001 Share Posted February 12, 2001 I loath the plain old M4 Sherman,all it's good for is to distract your opponent while you sneak up something that can kill what it shoots at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subvet Posted February 12, 2001 Share Posted February 12, 2001 I would agree with those that say trucks, jeeps, and kubels. It's true that any unit can be usefull in the right situation and if used properly though. The above vehicles are just the ones I find the least usefull on average. The Wespe/Priest are some of the vehicles that I buy the MOST, so I find them quite good for the price. And in a recent tournament game I bought a Marder II that performed very well. For the price I love these three. ------------------ Craig "Only a madman would consider the possibility of war between the two states (France and Germany), for which, from our point of view, there is no rational or moral ground." - Chancellor Adolf Hitler, Oct. 14, 1933 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pud Posted February 12, 2001 Share Posted February 12, 2001 Archer, the designer of this thing must now be working for Bill Gates! Jeeps? I find them great for getting that Piat or Sniper way out on front on big maps to ambush tanks/commanders. They are the fastest vehicle and can cover HUGE distances. If they get hit the other player will more than likely assume the bailed "Inf?" is its crew. Hide the dumped/bailed assassin till the time is right. Be "gamey" and have the real crew get killed off and the player will assume theres nothing left. Pud (Fixed typo) [This message has been edited by Pud (edited 02-12-2001).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illo Posted February 12, 2001 Share Posted February 12, 2001 Marder II is really great vehicle. Its gun traverse is good which means fast targeting and good first shot change. I only use them in pairs in ambush positions. Last game against AI one of my Marders took out 6 Shermans Both my Marders survived alive. So i think its worth of trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illo Posted February 12, 2001 Share Posted February 12, 2001 ..and Nashorn is useless. Even from 2km range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tero Posted February 12, 2001 Share Posted February 12, 2001 >...and Nashorn is useless. Even from 2km range. Yet IRL it was a potent tank killer with its powerfull gun. Best used from ambush. Not that there are any "anomalies" in CM and its representation of certain non-turreted vehicles and their relation their real life counter parts and tactics used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Posted February 12, 2001 Share Posted February 12, 2001 Originally posted by tero: Yet IRL it was a potent tank killer with its powerfull gun. Best used from ambush. The Nashorn was a vehicle designed for the eastern front. It's a fish out of water in the Bocage of the ETO. Not that there are any "anomalies" in CM and its representation of certain non-turreted vehicles and their relation their real life counter parts and tactics used. Now don't tease us and run off. I'd be curious to know which non-turreted vehicles have anomalies in CM and exactly what these anomalies are. And as far as I know "tactics used" is up to the player, not the game. ------------------ You've never heard music until you've heard the bleating of a gut-shot cesspooler. -Mark IV [This message has been edited by Vanir (edited 02-12-2001).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Petersson Posted February 13, 2001 Share Posted February 13, 2001 I just remembered the very worst unit I've ever used, to try something historical: A German Conscript 75mm arty FO, without TRP. About 6 minutes response time to get something slightly less than an 81mm mortar... (Added the historical part: ) This was to fill out my Volkssturm defenders in a QB. VS typically used 75mm arty. Cheers Olle [This message has been edited by Olle Petersson (edited 02-13-2001).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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