THH149 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 A few questions about what we're seeing on the vids about the wrecked vehicles etc etc, is it fair to say: - the Russians use Tigr's as recon/special forces moving in advance of the main body of a BTG say as the advance guard or forward security element, so where we see Tigr's is where we see the FEBA? - the wrecked BMPs and tanks on main roads indicate where the advance guard or main body elements has been but has since passed through? - are the Ukrainians being bypassed extensively, but they remain able to raid supply convoys while withdrawing to more defensible positions before being cut off or encircled by advancing forces? - where are the Ukrainian tanks? and are there any left? Is that why they're recieving from abroad so many infantry launched ATGMs/AT weapons? - is the current March 1st Russian pause a tactical pause in US terms? - How does the Rus speed of advance - 50 km a day - compare to first few days of Iraq war? - the Russians seem like they've mastered pincer movements at the strategic to operational levels eg crimea to mariupol, crimea to Odessa, Odessa to Kyiv, Beloruss to Kyiv, Kyiv to Odessa, Mariupol to Dnepr, Russian to Kharkiv, Kharkiv to Dnepr? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THH149 Posted March 5, 2022 Author Share Posted March 5, 2022 Why aren't the Russians doing thunder runs? This video from Modern War Institute explains why from 25.00 ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THH149 Posted March 5, 2022 Author Share Posted March 5, 2022 Seems like the answer is that Russia drank their own cool aid and assumed the Ukrainian forces were a deck of cards stacked out in the east and it would fall in a few days. They've been fighting therefore with both hands tied behind their backs and just tried to kick the door in. They've had greater success in the South But, they're now spending time re-organising their Battalion Tactical Groups BTGs and about to unleash more of their full power and both continue to isolate cities and achieve control of the borders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THH149 Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 A bit of vid from the Russian side, said to be of the Sparta battalion, separatists from Donest/Luhansk regions, but interesting to see a controller of a drone provide situational awareness, including the tablet and flight controls following a junior officer around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George MC Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Wonder what the life expectancy of a tactical drone operator in a command group is? Like that guy will stand out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probus Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Like a radio operator in WWII? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THH149 Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 Some excerpts of the descriptions of the Battle of Voznesenk, including a map of the area, excellent scenario material: https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-russia-voznesensk-town-battle-11647444734?mod=djemalertNEWS- - The Russian assault began with missile strikes and shelling that hit central Voznesensk, destroying the municipal swimming pool and damaging high-rises. - Helicopters dropped Russian air-assault troops in a forested ridge southwest of Voznesensk, as an armored column drove from the southeast. - Mr. Velichko said a local collaborator with the Russians, a woman driving a Hyundai SUV, showed the Russian column a way through back roads. - The Russian tanks would fire into Voznesensk and immediately drive a few hundred yards away to escape return fire, - Mr. Rudenko was on the phone with a Ukrainian artillery unit. Sending coordinates via the Viber social-messaging app, he directed artillery fire at the Russians. So did other local Territorial Defense volunteers around the city. - Mayor Velichko worked with local businessmen to dig up the shores of the Mertvovod river that cuts through town so armored personnel vehicles couldn’t ford it. - He got other businessmen who owned a quarry and a construction company to block off most streets to channel the Russian column into areas that would be easier to hit with artillery. - Ukrainian shelling blew craters in the field, and some Russian vehicles sustained direct hits. Other Ukrainian regular troops and Territorial Defense forces moved toward Russian positions on foot, hitting vehicles with U.S.-supplied Javelin missiles. As Russian armor caught fire—including three of the five tanks in the wheat field—soldiers abandoned functioning vehicles and escaped on foot or sped off in the BTRs that still had fuel. - Russian survivors of the Voznesensk battle left behind nearly 30 of their 43 vehicles—tanks, armored personnel carriers, multiple-rocket launchers, trucks—as well as a downed Mi-24 attack helicopter, according to Ukrainian officials in the city. - We didn’t have a single tank against them, just rocket-propelled grenades, Javelin missiles and the help of artillery,” said Vadym Dombrovsky, commander of the Ukrainian special-forces reconnaissance group in the area and a Voznesensk resident. - Ukrainian officers estimate that some 400 Russian troops took part in the attack. The number would have been bigger if these forces—mostly from the 126th naval infantry brigade based in Perevalnoye, Crimea, hadn’t come under heavy shelling along the way. - Russian forces set up base at a gas station at Voznesensk’s entrance. A Russian BTR infantry fighting vehicle drove up to the blown-up bridge over the Mertvovod, opening fire on the Territorial Defense base to the left. Five tanks, supported by a BTR, drove to a wheat field overlooking Voznesensk. - A group of Territorial Defense volunteers armed with Kalashnikovs was hiding in a building at that field’s edge. They didn’t have much of a chance against the BTR’s - Russian troops in two Ural trucks were preparing to assemble and set up 120mm mortars on the wheat field, but they got only as far as unloading the ammunition before Ukrainian shelling began. - The Ukrainian army’s 80th brigade was towing away the last remaining Russian BTRs with “Z” painted on their sides. About 15 Russian tanks and other vehicles were in working or salvageable condition, said Mr. Dombrovsky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THH149 Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 Seems like there is a bit of "Javelin Fright" amongst Russians, maybe like "Tank Fright" in world war 2 where infantry refused to engage tanks, where Russian crews abandon their vehicles whenever they see a Javelin launched. Seems to me that the crews arent trained to use terrain in their attacks. While the article above does indicate tanks withdrawing a few hundred yards after firing to avoid return fire in a kind of tank barrage tactic. I'm not sure if thats an innovation or somethings tank crews are trained to perform. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THH149 Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 https://www.benning.army.mil/armor/earmor/content/issues/2017/spring/2Fiore17.pdf Real world tactics on how to defeat a Russian BTG... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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