homewrecker Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Something I've wondered since SF1 was released was why no ACOGs for the Army. All rifles seem to have aimpoints on their models. All info I can find suggest the Army contracted for these in 2007, which is in time frame for the game. Though im pretty sure they were in use as far back as Just Cause in 89. Are these represented in abstraction or were they left out of the TO&E for the Army? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) Army M4s in CMSF2 mount the M68 close combat reflex sight, first issued in 2000. The Army bought about a million of 'em with the bulk being fitted to M4s. Since most infantry fighting in CMSF is of the close-in urban type the no-maginifcation M68 would (theoretically) be preferably to the x4 magnification of the M150 ACOG. Not that I really know what I'm talking about in that regard. I just double-checked CMBS and Army M4s do mount the ACOG, so the decision to mount M68 in CMSF2 appears to be deliberate. Edited October 23, 2018 by MikeyD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttorneyAtWar Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) The marksman in the US Army infantry squads sometimes carries an M4 with an ACOG so it is present in the game. Edited October 23, 2018 by Raptorx7 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homewrecker Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Raptorx7 said: The marksman in the US Army infantry squads sometimes carries an M4 with an ACOG so it is present in the game. Never noticed that, will have to go back and look. Thanks for the heads up. Maybe it isnt represented graphically? Ive got a lot of hours in SF1, but i guess I missed it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I don't think the army in CMSF2 fields it. By all rights, perhaps, there shouldn't be a 'marksman' platoon position at all because this was before they brought M110 into rifle squads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastiff Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) We had the ACOG 1986/ AIMPOINT 1997, I was in at that time. it also dependant on what unit and if rapid deployment unit. some of the guys even mounted their own sights, i.e EOTECH stuff. Edited October 23, 2018 by 71st_Mastiff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firehead Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 ACOG wasn't a commonly issued item to Army units, but it was the standard sight for USMC, if I recall correctly. If you found one within the squad, that is a DMR. We sent a couple guys who were issued ACOGs(07-08 OEF) to an advanced marksman course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homewrecker Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 K going back I notice the scope icon for the DM of the squad, just didn't see it rendered in game. So I answered my own question. Sorry fellas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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