Rinaldi Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, leonardus said: Very bad. A magnificent game without any potential. All reside on developers will. They don't understand the game development concept which can make this game a land mark in history of strategy games all times ever. Well, I'm sorry that you feel that way. I have reservations about how they run their business as well, I must confess, but I have absolutely no issues with how they design their games or interact with their community. Its a gold standard for me, in fact. A game that doesn't need modding beyond the cosmetic is a game that was done properly, and I can think of two, maybe three simulators that achieve this standard. As for a game residing on the developer's will, that's why they're called "the developers" one would suppose. Edited January 19, 2017 by Rinaldi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IICptMillerII Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, leonardus said: So, please list the hundreds of vehicles present in Final Blitzkrieg. Equipment used by these formations includes well over 100 vehicles, two dozen small arms, and dozens of heavy weapons! Future expansions will add more nationalities and forces while expanding the timeline to the end of the war! Tanks, Tank Destroyers, and SPGs German Pz IIL Luchs Pz IV H (Early) Pz IV H (Late) Pz IV J (Early) Pz IV J (Late) Pz VA Panther (Mid) Pz VA Panther (Late) Pz VG Panther (Early) Pz VG Panther (Mid) Pz VG Panther (Late) Pz VIE Tiger (Mid) Pz VIE Tiger (Late) Pz VIE Tiger (Latest) Pz VIB King Tiger (Henschel Turret) Jpz 38(t) Hetzer Jpz 38(t) Hetzer (Late) Flammpanzer 38(t) Flakpanzer 38(t) Jpz IV (Early) Jpz IV (Early) (HQ) Jpz IV (Mid) Jpz IV (Mid) (HQ) Jpz IV (Late) Jpz IV (Late) (HQ) Jpz IV/70(A) Jpz IV/70(V) Jpz IV/70(V) (Late) Marder I Marder II Marder IIIM Nashorn (Late) Jagdpanther Jagdtiger StuG IIIG (Early) StuG IIIG (Mid) StuG IIIG (Late) StuG IIIG (Latest) StuH 42 (Early) StuH 42 (Mid) StuH 42 (Late) StuH 42 (Latest) Sturmpanzer IV (Mid) Sturmpanzer IV (Late) Sturmtiger Grille H Wespe Hummel United States M4(105) Sherman (Mid) M4(105) Sherman (Late) M4 Sherman (Late) M4A1 Sherman (Late) M4A1(76W) Sherman (Early) M4A3 Sherman M4A3(75W) Sherman (Early) M4A3(75W) Sherman (Mid) M4A3(75W) Sherman (Mid) (Flame) M4A3(76W) Sherman (Early) M4A3(105) Sherman (Mid) M4A3(105) Sherman (Late) M4A3E2(75) Sherman Jumbo M4A3E2(75) Sherman Jumbo (Flame) M4A3E2(76) Sherman Jumbo M4A3E8(76)W "Easy Eight" Sherman M4 Sherman Crab M5A1 Stuart M24 Chaffee M10 GMC M10 GMC (Late) M18 GMC M36 GMC M36B1 GMC M7B1 HMC Priest M8 HMC M12 GMC Halftracks German SPW 250/1 Alt SPW 250/1 Neu SPW 250/3 Alt SPW 250/3 Neu SPW 250/7 Alt SPW 250/7 Neu SPW 250/9 Alt SPW 250/9 Neu SPW 250/10 Alt SPW 250/10 Neu SPW 251/1 C SPW 251/1 D SPW 251/2 C SPW 251/2 D SPW 251/3 C SPW 251/3 D SPW 251/7 C SPW 251/7 D SPW 251/9 C SPW 251/9 D SPW 251/10 C SPW 251/10 D SPW 251/16 D SPW 251/17 D SPW 251/21 D United States M2A1 M3 (1x M1919) M3 (2x M1919) M3 (1x M2HB) M3A1 (M2HB and M1919) M3A1 (M2HB) M4A1 MMC M21 MMC M15A1 CGMC M16 MGMC Other Vehicles German Möbelwagen Wirblewind PSW 222 PSW 223 PSW 231 PSW 233 PSW 234/1 PSW 234/2 Puma PSW 234/3 Zugkraftwagen 20mm Flakvierling Zugkraftwagen 37mm Flak Sd.Kfz. 10/5 20mm Flak Kübelwagen Kfz.70 Krupp-Protze Opel Blitz United States M8 Greyhound (Early) M8 Greyhound (Mid) M20 Armored Utility Car Jeep Jeep (M1919) Jeep (M2HB) Jeep (Radio) 2.5 Ton Truck Large Guns/Mortars (on map) German 81mm GrW 34 81mm kzGrW 42 50mm PaK 38 75mm PaK 40 76mm PaK 36(r) 88mm PaK 43 88mm PaK 43/41 75mm leIG 18 75mm leIG 37 150mm sIG 33 75mm LG 40 20mm Flak 38 4x20mm Flakvierling 38 37mm Flak 36 88mm Flak 36 United States 60mm M2 Mortar 81mm M1 Mortar 57mm M1 Anti-Tank Gun 57mm M1 Anti-Tank Gun (Mk III Carriage) 76mm M5 Anti-Tank Gun 75mm M1A1 Pack Howitzer 40mm Bofors Anti-Aircraft Gun M51 Quad .50 caliber Anti-Aircraft Gun Source: http://www.battlefront.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=349&Itemid=611 Dunno about you, but that sure looks like a lot of equipment to me. And this is just one game in the family, one game that is expected to have modules, which will add even more vehicles. Your argument is invalid. Edited January 19, 2017 by IICptMillerII 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Dvorak Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Leonardus, do you own any CM title or you just played the demo? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinty Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 8 hours ago, leonardus said: Very bad. A magnificent game without any potential. All reside on developers will. They don't understand the game development concept which can make this game a land mark in history of strategy games all times ever. What you are failing to comprehend is that the Combat Mission series of games is based on being as close to the actual reality of the depicted conflicts as possible. Therefore it would be undesirable to allow individual gamers to modify the performance of the in game units. Combat Mission is a battle simulator, not Company of Heroes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Malan2 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 On 1/18/2017 at 10:31 AM, leonardus said: So, it's a very big disappointment. We are forced to see and play what developers want. And this is only a minor fraction of vehicles/weapons who are really depicted in the game on what was real in western front. So a big MALUS here. Forgive my ignorance, but what are these extra vehicles that mean CM is only a minor fraction of the total? I have been studying military history and WW2 particularly for about 40 years as a hobby, and I am not aware of this vast hoard of vehicles (from WF 1944-early 45) that I have missed. Do I need to go an find a new hobby that I can be some good at, or is there a teeny weeny bit of exaggeration here? Bearing in mind that CM is about vehicles that actually made it into combat of course (and had an effect on same), so we don't need to discuss the Tetrarch tanks' few days in combat with max 20 vehicles, or the German stupid monster prototypes... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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