General_Patton Posted April 24, 2000 Share Posted April 24, 2000 Dont worry - I am getting new one next year, so waiting for CM is worthwhile. What I means that I cannot use the demo while I am waiting for CM. :-P Dont you have a demo thats runs on 133 Mhez comp? Cheerio General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Time Software Posted April 24, 2000 Share Posted April 24, 2000 You can try the existing demo. I know some oddball person played it on a P100 I'm sure it ran slower than a leaf sinking in quicksand, but it will give you an idea what you are in for when you get a newer system. But the answer to your question is really "no". We can not make a version to run on slower machines. CM runs as fast as it possibly can so there is nothing more that we can do. A P133 with a 3D card might be at the bottom end of playable, but only just that. I know I wouldn't want to play it at that speed Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabot Posted April 24, 2000 Share Posted April 24, 2000 I remember reading a post that said 233 mhz is the minimum (which is what i have). I could be wrong on this, though Gentlemen, can we get the clariification on this? Thanx in advance Whoops!, Steve posted before me and answered my question Thanx Steve [This message has been edited by Black Sabot (edited 04-24-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted April 24, 2000 Share Posted April 24, 2000 I'm running it on a 250Mhz 603ev. It's amazingly playable. ------------------ Visit my webpage! http://cm4mac.tripod.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Galanti Posted April 24, 2000 Share Posted April 24, 2000 Heh, COlin, I got ya beat, I was running on a 150 MHz 604 for a while (not even a 604e) with no video card... It wasn't super fluid, but more then fluid enough to make the game playable... I'm not sure what the minimum on the a PC would be though... Still, I'm glad I've upgraded before the game has been released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kettle Black Posted April 24, 2000 Share Posted April 24, 2000 Real men play CM beta demo on a P166 with a Voodoo1. And I do too. It works without a hitch and I have dubbed it "The best piece of gaming code ever to have been installed on my hard drive" to people I meet in the street. Going for a Athlon 600 with lots of goodies soon. The price for all the parts has been halved since early December Kettle Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutral Party Posted April 24, 2000 Share Posted April 24, 2000 133 MHz - luxury. I'm playing CM on an abacus. It takes 354 years to set up my forces. By the time I get my stug moving it has been zapped by a orbital X-ray laser. Damn R&D. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike D Posted April 24, 2000 Share Posted April 24, 2000 GP, I'll take credit for being the "Oddball" (Thanks Steve ) I was running the demo originally on my old 1st generation Pentium 100Mhz machine, w/ Diamond 2000 3D video card (4MB video RAM) supplemented w/ an Orchid VooDoo I video card, and 48 MB RAM. It was a little glitchy here and there. Especially when dragging LOS lines around the map, etc. But it got the job done. However, no way I'd suggest someone play the actual game on such a system for long. It isn't going to be very enjoyable for you at all. Why? Cuz now I've got a Pentium III 500Mhz machine w/ 64 MB RAM and Nvidia GeForce video card w/ 32MB video RAM. The difference is like night and day! God I can't wait until this game is in my hands. Mike D aka Mikester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS_PanzerLeader Posted April 24, 2000 Share Posted April 24, 2000 OVERCLOCK that 133 man make sure you got adequate cooling tho ------------------ SS_PanzerLeader.......out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrapGame Posted April 25, 2000 Share Posted April 25, 2000 Don't bother with the overclocking stuff. I had a 100 mhz Pentium, and spent the 79 bucks to get a drop in 200 mhz pentium. This was over a year ago. I think the slowest upgrade they sell now is a 233 or 266 mhz for the same 79 bucks. I spent another couple clams on the Voodoo 2000 PCI, and my 1996 Dell machine is cranking CM along quite nicely. Both upgrades were pretty much idiot proof in their installations, and the parts are all available on the web, compUSA, etc. CrapGame out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS_PanzerLeader Posted April 25, 2000 Share Posted April 25, 2000 Well since he is planning on getting a new PC he may not want to spend $ on parts - making overclocking a good option ------------------ SS_PanzerLeader.......out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strat Posted April 25, 2000 Share Posted April 25, 2000 It works on a P166 w/Riva TNT. It was a little slow but not unplayable. I have since upgraded my cpu to 333 MHz. Next year maybe the 1 GHz machines will be out with the 233MHz or better bus speed. I will upgrade to a new system, then. P.S. If you need to upgrade that slow pentium machine, try Evergreen. They may have a CPU upgrade for your system for just a couple of hundred dolllars. Strat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_Patton Posted April 25, 2000 Author Share Posted April 25, 2000 I have tried to run the demo and it doesn't work :-( but I have tried on my friend's comp (450Mherz) last night and I realy like CM which is far better than CC3 or CC4. Cheerio General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dschugaschwili Posted April 25, 2000 Share Posted April 25, 2000 CPU speed isn't the deciding factor on low end computers, it's the graphics card. I've tried CM on a Pentium 90, and it was unplayable because the drivers of that ultra-modern ET4000 card couldn't handle transparency effects. Reading white text on white background isn't really what gives you an idea about how many men / how much ammo ... a squad has left. Dschugaschwili Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrapGame Posted April 25, 2000 Share Posted April 25, 2000 Strat, my overdrive processor is of the Evergreen nature - $79 bucks the last time I checked. It was a brainless installation that took all of 5 minutes. Highly recommended. SS_PL, I recommended against overclocking as (please correct me if I am wrong here) it is not a simple 5 minute procedure, right? Don't you have to mess around with jumper settings and making sure your other components will work at the new settings? The Evergreen overdrive that I dropped in mine required nothing other than opening the case, flipping the lever on the old processor, pulling it out, put the new one in and flip the lever back. Cloes up the case, and done. Total of 5 minutes (without using a screw gun to take the case apart ) Relatively same process with dropping in the voodoo card. I too, am looking forward to upgrading my PC, but I am waiting for the Willamette processors and faster bus speeds before I drop my real cash. CrapGame out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von shrad Posted April 25, 2000 Share Posted April 25, 2000 Glad to see you George. Welcome. A kinder, gentler Geo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted April 25, 2000 Share Posted April 25, 2000 I would suggest a minimum of 128 megs of ram if you are upgrading to a new system.That'sll stop Windows thrashing the HD when it starts to use virtual memory.I have 192 megs, and its barely enough sometimes. 256megs would be good, I upgrading to 384 megs of ram in my next system. ------------------ CCJ aka BLITZ_Force My Hompage ----> http://www.geocities.com/coolcolj Double your immersion with my Tweaked Textures and Saving Private Ryan sound set mods for CM!! Check out my new Textures V2.0 photo Gallery and my music while your there, or grab a CM Wallpaper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von shrad Posted April 25, 2000 Share Posted April 25, 2000 can you upgrade a HP pavillion? I have a P2450 w/128 of ram. Is there anything I can do? I know as much about computers as I do about modern medicine,which is VERY little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von shrad Posted April 25, 2000 Share Posted April 25, 2000 . [This message has been edited by von shrad (edited 04-25-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS_PanzerLeader Posted April 25, 2000 Share Posted April 25, 2000 IF his MB will support it then he need only change a few settings - it is not hard to do - there are NUMEROUS sites on the web about overclocking - run a search on overclocking and you will find some how to's Jumper settings are a piece of cake - as long as you have the documentation If you don't then go to the maufacturers website and get it If ya donn't have any idea who made the board forget it But if you can get the documetntation grab your self a cheap 16 meg video card for <50 bucks - creative lab banshee aint a great card but it will run CM and some FPS ok - but they are DIRT cheap and for this sys you don't wanna dump bucks in it So if ya can O'C and ya get the cheap card you are running CM for < $50 THere is no way I would buy the evergreen thing too much money - you can buy a new processor for less AND you would still need a vid card ------------------ SS_PanzerLeader.......out [This message has been edited by SS_PanzerLeader (edited 04-25-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrapGame Posted April 25, 2000 Share Posted April 25, 2000 SS_PL, Thanks for the info. I will have to check into OC'ing my evergreen chip. Would love to have the calcs in CM go faster. Recommend any sites in particular? CrapGame out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS_PanzerLeader Posted April 25, 2000 Share Posted April 25, 2000 yeh man Here is a good one http://www.speedguide.net/Overclocking/overclocking.htm also if ya want some more resoures checkout www.bxboards.com toms hardware is another site that deals with it but Im not sure of the URL I got lost all my other links but they shouldnt be hard to find - try google for a search engine its great www.google.com ------------------ SS_PanzerLeader.......out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted April 25, 2000 Share Posted April 25, 2000 I ran it on a 166 Mhz Pentium I with 32 Mb SDRAM and no 3D card just yesterday. It ran slowly but was playable.. Personally I found that a company vs company battle was playable on the 166. I tried to load a battle featuring 2 Bns of infantry and 18 tanks + lots of offboard arty and smoke missions and I think the 166 literally choked on it but then again that's the sort of battle which is at the upper limit of what CM can simulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted April 25, 2000 Share Posted April 25, 2000 The demo runs fine on my 166 without 3D video, but I'am thinking of getting Voodoo 2 for my system. Will this help much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabot Posted April 25, 2000 Share Posted April 25, 2000 Fionn (or any other Beta tester), I have a P2-233 W/160 SDRAM. Will my computer be able to handle the larger scenarios like the one you described? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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