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27 minutes ago, user1000 said:

The M8a1 had a different chassis, modified turret and howitzer(m3) and upgraded armor compared to the regular M8 scott, will this be applied in a patch? I don't know the dates the m8a1s became available.

Is your question derived from the 'World of Tanks' or the RealWorld™ ?

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You are just looking at a prototype stuart with an open top and 75mm cannon (not m3 howitzer)..... This is no way an M8a1. Mis indentified as an M8a1. Probably passed down through gamers etc. Or might be fake. It might have been called the m8a1 but not a final version that saw action. The final version may have been called another name lost in history or confused with the old m8 etc.

The M8A1 Final version Had a short barreled howitzer that looked similar to the M8 but some improvements such as which I have stated armor, howitzer, chassis improvements.

"recoil surface as a part of the tube"  -from wikipedia on M3 howitzer

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That page above is out of Hunnicutt. The next page it continues to say the uparmed M8 it was briefly considered for interim vehicle until T70 (M18 Hellcat) came on line. But they would'a never been able to get the production line up and running before Hellcat showed up. So they simply cancelled the project. So That's whatch'a call a 'paper panzer'.

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21 minutes ago, MikeyD said:

That page above is out of Hunnicutt. The next page it continues to say the uparmed M8 it was briefly considered for interim vehicle until T70 (M18 Hellcat) came on line. But they would'a never been able to get the production line up and running before Hellcat showed up. So they simply cancelled the project. So That's whatch'a call a 'paper panzer'.

How do we KNOW the upgrade was cancelled?

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Maybe the changes to the m8 versions were too minuscule to notice a difference on performance?

Maybe I was wrong and there was only 1 version the whole time.

Who is right the internet or old books? They both contradict each other these days..

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Hunnicutt is THE authoritative reference on US armor. Let's see what his book 'Stuart' says. The page after the scanned page above continues:

"The new gun motor carriage performed well during tests at Camp Hood and it was considered suitable as an interim tank destroyer until the new 76mm gun motor carriage T70 became available. Subsequently, it was determined production quantities of  the modified M8 could not be available prior to the appearance of T70 and the program was cancelled."

The chassis appears to be an unaltered M8, the turret is an M8 turret with the roof items cut away to make it entirely open-topped. No upgraded armor, M8 HMC had thicker bow armor than an M18 Hellcat, regardless.

 

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Was the armor thicker than the m5a1? Also I suppose there is not much difference in the M3 howitzer opposed to the M2 howitzer some were fitted with. If someone finds info that states there was an M8 upgrade process, Otherwise I believe that facts point to there was not a released M8 upgrade. Upgrade probably meant probably from the m5a1 stuart. Thanks guys,

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