exsonic01 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 IMO the BMPT should be in here. It is the key of support for recent Russian armored tactics. Also, any plan about mine-clearing "plow" attached tanks for future? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzersaurkrautwerfer Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 The Russians don't actually use the BMPT. It was trialed but not purchased 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieme(ITA) Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Never seen the BMPT in recent armored tactics of any sort.. It's a very interesting asset nontheless, that might be added in one of the modules. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H1nd Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Mine clearing tanks I'm pretty sure will be included in the next module since they were already added to the cmbn vehicle pack. They are pretty much a must have for any serious attempt at depicting modern combat with extensive minefields deployed. One of the reasons why giving up AP mines (Ottawa treaty) is not actually that big of a deal is that eastern mechanized forces are able to clear AT mines with plows and rollers basically from the go. From all the materiel I have read regarding soviet/russian mechanized doctrines, a mechanized spearhead company would be assigned one or more engineering tanks so that the force can quickly push through encountered mine fields. These special tanks are important part of the eastern doctrine of attacking from the march formations without any significant pause to the operations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holman Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 BTS has mentioned that more in-depth engineer activity is planned for the future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzersaurkrautwerfer Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Re: BMPT Like how CMSF had a module that included Syrian T-90s and BMP3s, perhaps a "Defense Spending Gone Wild!" module would be fun. Toss in the BMPT, throw in the Armata with hopefully what we'll know about it in a few months/years, US F-35 CAS, etc, etc etc. All assets that are right now dubious/interesting but rejected for inclusion in one off scenarios. Re: Mine clearing Mine clearing tanks I'm pretty sure will be included in the next module since they were already added to the cmbn vehicle pack. They are pretty much a must have for any serious attempt at depicting modern combat with extensive minefields deployed. One of the reasons why giving up AP mines (Ottawa treaty) is not actually that big of a deal is that eastern mechanized forces are able to clear AT mines with plows and rollers basically from the go. From all the materiel I have read regarding soviet/russian mechanized doctrines, a mechanized spearhead company would be assigned one or more engineering tanks so that the force can quickly push through encountered mine fields. These special tanks are important part of the eastern doctrine of attacking from the march formations without any significant pause to the operations. Most armor formations have some sort of mine clearing tools. The US Armor company for instance, has a plow per platoon, and a mine roller per company. In practice the plows are simply kept attached to the tanks (it impacts fuel consumption, but otherwise tank is as mobile as its peers), although the roller is only fitted in preparation for deliberate breaches as it impacts the tank's performance significantly. For a breach operation, super-historical like 80's-90's there'd be CEVs, dozers and towed line charges assigned to the breach company, but more recently the a lot of these capabilities are rolled into the ABV vehicle (mineplow or dozer blade, lane marking equipment, and two line charges under armor). I'd be thrilled if CMBS let me plan out combined arms breaches, with all the associated tools. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieme(ITA) Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) ABV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25c8un0JHVU Edited February 21, 2015 by Kieme(ITA) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exsonic01 Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 Thanks to let me know~ I can't wait to see next module..... if my wife and kids allow me to play at that time lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTR Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 T-14 based BMPT might make it to service, otherwise I much rather see T-90AK, T-72B(K) and Kamaz-4310 added. If you absolutely have to add BMPT, please make it the BMPT-72 version as that's much sexier looking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzersaurkrautwerfer Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Provided for plow tank pornography purposes: Enjoy the wicked sweet early 90's VHSness. Delete all references to CEVs, and consolidate the plow/MICLIC/lane marking roles into the ABV and it all works more or less the same. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holman Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) There's a Steel Beasts scenario set up more or less to mimic that exact exercise. Edited February 21, 2015 by Holman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagler Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Yeah bmpt and bmpt2 are not in service. As btr has said though the armata based bmpt may see service because of its modularity concept. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUSKER2142 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 So to say, Russian Armed Forces don't know as well as where to use BMPT. Because BMPT new type of armored machinery, though appeared in prototypes in the 1980th years. My opinion of BMPT should be applied in attack of the cities and defensive areas. I for each tank platoon would allocate 1-2 BMPT, and for a motorized infantry platoon on 1 BMPT. Скажем так, ВС РФ не знают как и где использовать БМПТ . Потому что БМПТ новый тип бронетехники , хоть и появилась в опытных образцах в 1980-х годах . Моё мнение БМПТ надо применять в штурме городов и оборонительных районов . Я бы на каждый танковый взвод выделял 1-2 БМПТ , а на мотострелковый взвод по 1 БМПТ . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTR Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) With new 57mm auto-cannon weapons module out on IDEX, BMPT for the Russian service seems more likely. One major complaint to current variants presented is that 30mm's are not enough to provide support to tanks from modern engagement stand-off ranges. Edited February 23, 2015 by BTR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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