JonS Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 100% w00t! w00t! cardboard cutout is made of cardboard 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Think of what might have been, if the wealth and energy and political will that went into Iraq I and II and Afghanistan before/during/after surge, into the CIA and the TSA and the FBI and NRO and the NSA; had gone into building bridges and roads and schools and productive industry at home. I'm not advocating total disarmament, but just a domestic focus and a defensive, non-provocative stance against outside threats. Believe me, I have. I no longer look toward the future with hope; there seems to be no limit to how bad things can become. Common sense has become as extinct as any of the thousands of species we've managed to kill off in the last century. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 100% w00t! w00t! cardboard cutout is made of cardboard Sifting. And Loafing. Loafing and sifting...............you panning gold? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalins Organ Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 That’s right. Obama is so cool that he would never blunder, gaffe or return a bust of Churchill to our greatest ally for ill or ignorant reasons. He just simply has different tastes. Perhaps a bust of Che or Moa is more along his cool tastes? Abraham Lincoln actually - which is mentioned right there in the article that it seems you did not bothe to read. You got a problem with that?:cool: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 You got a problem with that?:cool: No, but I think Lincoln would. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Think of what might have been, if the wealth and energy and political will that went into Iraq I and II and Afghanistan before/during/after surge, into the CIA and the TSA and the FBI and NRO and the NSA; had gone into building bridges and roads and schools and productive industry at home. It was called the Stimulas and it failed. Funny isn't it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Tell us about Global Warming! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Tell us about Global Warming! Well Jon, we are going to need our own thread. But yes, the planet is either warming or cooling. Any more questions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalins Organ Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 No, but I think Lincoln would. Care to expand why you thnk he would have a problem? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Care to expand why you thnk he would have a problem? Both are lawyers from or have lived in Illinois. From there I don’t think the two would agree much or care much for the other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigduke6 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Maybe on another planet. You don't run a pair of runious wars and let the military industrial complex do pretty much whatever it wants, and have a prayer of helping the economy. Of course, to be fair, as long as there are plenty of people willing to buy into the "ooh, dangerous threat, be scared" propaganda, and live their lives and judge their leaders with a pinheaded partisan mindset, then can we really condemn the people who are leaders for exploiting willful ignorance on the part of the people who aren't the leaders? Funny when the shoe fits. It was called the Stimulas and it failed. Funny isn't it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltaylor Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 I had not realised how possible another Middle East war was: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/08/us/politics/mitt-romney-and-benjamin-netanyahu-are-old-friends.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all Lets be honest I have problems with people who really believe there is a God guiding them It makes killing other people that much easier I reckon. As for Romney and his financial past - Bain Capital seems to have done the old pump and dump pretty successfully. What gets me is that any business taken private and then re-floated with a ton more debt has to be dangerous. But then I suppose all the people getting pay-offs in the flotation are happy even if the eventual portfolios where the shares end up take a hit 3 years or more later. Think Facebook but with tangible asstes but loads of debt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Now its coming out that a fair chunk of Bain's startup cash came from the Latin American oligarchs who sponsored the infamous El Salvadoran "death squads." This just keeps getting better. And re: possible Middle East wars, all I have to do is remind myself that Romney's religion tends to incline him towards a dogmatic, religion-versed view of the region and its issues, rather than looking at it through purely dispassionate historical and practical terms. Consequently, he's coming to it with a set of biases that do not preclude the possibility of Armageddon and the Second Coming as attractive options for humanity. Just what we need. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 You guys play the game very well. Where you all taught by David Axelrod? Simply make false accusations and attack the opposition. That way you don’t have to defend your record and the failure of your policies. Obama cannot run on his record, it is dismal. He is the least experienced guy every time he walks into a room. He was never vetted, not by the media which is complicit in this sham or even his own party and you all know it. So you spend your time shouting down and attacking the opposition, rather than sing the praises of Obama. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltaylor Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Unfortunately the problem for the US is that you can have two lousy candidates at the same time - and lets face it the odds of anyone standing for President who has not cut deals to gain support or has some skeletons is probably nil. I make exceptions for at least Dwight D. The founding fathers if they saw the current set-up would probably want to go back to the drawing board. Particularly if they understood the way the media "Ads" to the quality of the debate. The trouble from the rest of the worlds point of view is the US has taken to making big mistakes overseas to demonstrate how powerful it isn't. And I can see the next one being teed up and I really think the US will ever be able to live it down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 The founding fathers if they saw the current set-up would probably want to go back to the drawing board. The Founding Fathers had it right. Problem is the Constitution has not been followed and thus corrupted by the politicians and special interests. The country has been stolen and much of the electorate is distracted, over medicated and socially isolated. We depend on an informed electorate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 you spend your time shouting down and attacking the opposition, rather than sing the praises Sorry, were you talking about yourself here? Because I don't see you saying anything positive, instead you go out of your way to create imagined controversies involving the return of borrowed property, and creating fantasy conflicts between people born centuries apart. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Sorry, were you talking about yourself here? The answer is No. Much of the content of this thread is obviously thrown up by some fellows who I suspect are liberals and leftists. The type of fellows who pride themselves on believing they are the smartest ones in the room. You Chaps have had your fun posting this and that about Romney and Bain, Global Warming and other leftist drivel. I am simply here to counter that. The controversy about the return of the Churchill bust existed. It was glossed over by a media, that simply put are the stenographers for the current regime…err White House. You want to talk about fantasies, let’s talk about Manmade Global warming. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 You want to talk about fantasies, let’s talk about Manmade Global warming. See? I knew you'd get there! Better late than never I'm going to call Poe's Law. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 See? I knew you'd get there! Better late than never You’re incorrigible. Perhaps you are bored like me and waiting for PBEM turns from CMFI, CMBN and CMSF? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Re: Poe's Law, I am guilty of "extreme fanboyism" as it relates to Combat Mission. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalins Organ Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Both are lawyers from or have lived in Illinois. From there I don’t think the two would agree much or care much for the other. And both are or were Presidents of the USA, and human beings, and male too - and have any number of other things in common. I'm sure there are a couple of lawyers from illinois who are friends with each other, somewhere....... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpabrams Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 And both are or were Presidents of the USA' date=' and human beings, and male too - and have any number of other things in common.[/quote'] Did Abe golf? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Did Abe golf? Shot four under par, but had to give it up to run for president. What with the war and all, he never had time for the game again. That's why in pictures he looks so wan and drawn. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Did Abe golf? Not that I know of but apparently he was quite the vampire hunter if you want to throw that in to the category of sport. There's a fascinating documentary on this very subject doing the rounds at the cinema currently. Regards KR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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