PF in SPW 251/3

[GerryCMBB]

Hello All:

How does one use the PF in these vehicles? Is it fired from inside the vehicle or does the crew have to dismount and take it with them?

Thanks in advance.

Gerry

[Ryujin]

Someone has to take it with them when they dismount using the acquire command. Generally you'll want to give to infantry, not the crew.

You do raise an interesting question about firing if while mounted. I don't know if the infantry in back can fire it from the vehicle once they've acquired it. I always have the squad fire it dismounted. On the other hand, I've never tired firing it mounted, but I suspect it won't let you do it and that getting within the tiny PF range of an enemy AFV with a halftrack will be interesting, to say the least.

[George MC]

Same reason you can't fire panzerfaust in a small room - back blast. Think of the mess in the back of a SPW. Bang! Look back - mince!

[winkelried]

Same reason you can't fire panzerfaust in a small room - back blast. Think of the mess in the back of a SPW. Bang! Look back - mince!

i would even wonder if you could look back after since the blast could be reflected back to you and your back would be toasted.

[Ryujin]

Wouldn't he fire it standing up in the back, so there isn't anything behind him? Probably towards the back of the vehicle or where ever would make sure all the backblast went over the side.

Why would you fire it sitting down in the vehicle? Aside from backblast, you have to stand up to see the target anyway. Firing while sitting down in back there would be bigger problems than backblast, like the fact you probably just fired the PF into your own vehicle as I don't know where else it would go. Unless you fired it straight up in the air.

[winkelried]

Wouldn't he fire it standing up in the back, so there isn't anything behind him? Probably towards the back of the vehicle or where ever would make sure all the backblast went over the side.

Why would you fire it sitting down in the vehicle? Aside from backblast, you have to stand up to see the target anyway. Firing while sitting down in back there would be bigger problems than backblast, like the fact you probably just fired the PF into your own vehicle as I don't know where else it would go. Unless you fired it straight up in the air.

you're right. you would have to expose yourself quite a bit to fire a PF in this way. look at the movies firing PF on youtube - you'll see that you need quite an angle to get the range - therefore the risk to hit the vehicle with the blast seems quite large. and being that close to a target (30m with the PF currently available in CMBN) with a SPW is probably deadly anyway for the SPW.

[George MC]

Just think of all the ammo and other flammable 'bangy' stuff stored in an SPW as well...

[winkelried]

additionally the 251/3 was a quite valuable asset which wouldn't have been exposed anyway.

[Ryujin]

I never said it's practical, but if your standing against one of the sides, so the blast leaves the vehicle, it should be possible with little risk from backblast. And no, I'm not asking that it be included in CM or anything, I'm just pointing out that it can be done. Not that you'd want to.

[womble]

I don't think you have any control over when your pTruppen will fire their Fausts. They're like Rifle Grenades: the only way you could stop them firing would be to issue "Target Light" commands. They'll fire them when they think it'd be useful and from positions the game rules permit them to. And I think the game rules allow the firing of Panzerfausts from within buildings: I'm sure I saw what must have been a PF resolve a stalemated building-to-building firefight (in the Germans' favour) in the last scenario I finished.