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    Armata soon to be in service.

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    What sources for those numbers?

     

    Battle of Grozny: http://forums.airbase.ru/2010/11/t73561--belogrud-poteri-tankov-v-groznom.html

    Attachment to first message. Author provides data for every lost tank with crew fate known.

     

    Actually, 30 tanks are not all lost tanks, but tanks with known crew fate.

     

    2nd Lebanon War: http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/history/2nd-lebanon-war/acv-losses/#3

     

    Both sources are in Russian. I can translate some pieces if you want.

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    Armata soon to be in service.

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    Hype? I can't say for everyone, but I'm personally hyped because Russia's been stuck with awful tanks and IFVs/APCs for ages. Despite what some of you might think they know, Russian media are full of critical articles and discussions about how bad Russian military equipment is. Including criticism regarding the new stuff. So, when there are developments that can potentially make things better, people get interested and hyped.

     

    Awful? Actually, I'am not trying to say it is not (I'am not an expert). But once I've tried to find some data for comparsion. And that what I've found:

     

    In Second Lebanon War Israel has lost 29 of Merkava tanks (Mk.2, 3, 4). 30 tankers were killed inside their vehicles.

    Tankers that has escaped their vehicles and were killed afterwars are not counted.

     

    During infamous  First Battle of Grozny Russian Forces has lost 30 tanks with 31 casualties among tankers.

     

    As you see, crew survivability is almost equal.

    However, Merkavas are widely considered to be safest tanks in the world, while Russian tanks are "awful".

     

    Did anybody have just said "prejudice"?

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    Armata soon to be in service.

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    While we breathlessly await the latest development in the unfolding far too slowly Armata saga, I'd like to ask the current and former Russian Army types here what the current form of address is these days. Is it still tovarisch? If so, is that informal or formal usage? I'm trying to find out how things may've changed in terms of military courtesy post SU. Speaking of Armata, I'm quite impressed by the knowledge and acumen of members here who are conducting an on the fly intel analysis of the tank and other members of the same AFV family. Could've used you during the Cold War, though in the case of some, I doubt it would've gone over well with the KGB or GRU!

     

    Regards,

     

    John Kettler

     

    It is still "toravish". It is true not only for army only but for any enforcement agency (internal affairs, special forces, etc) plus EMERCOM.

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    Armata soon to be in service.

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    You might be right. Some suggest that something like this might be underneath:

     

    http://www.ampravda.ru/files/articles-1/40409/9f0kt7jy6vqo-5.jpg

     

     

     

    This article says that explicitly: http://lenta.ru/news/2015/03/23/kurganets/

     

     

     

    Ранее в сети появились первые фотографии нового российского танка Т-14 «Армата», боевое отделение которого также укрыто деформирующим его очертания маскировочным каркасом.

     

    Translation:

     

    Photos appeared in Internet earlier shows new Russian tank T-14 with combat module covered with deforming camouflage carcass

     

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    Armata soon to be in service.

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    The height does not surprise me at all. It should be high enough to be functional. Optics should be able to reach certain level. Then there are antennas, meteo station masts, etc. And if it indeed has some kinda 2nd and 3rd medium caliber weapon, it has to be put somewhere too.

     

    Still I bet on camouflaging suprestructure to hide actual turret form and details.

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    Armata soon to be in service.

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    Welp, now we're talking. Something. Kinda.

     

    There's a higher (kinda) res picture:

     

    Hv3ML5JLhHY.jpg

     

    Khlopotov says that it appears that the turret is facing backwards.

     

    Backwards facing turret is quite usual for transportaion of tanks. What surprises me a lot is overall height of tank. Unless there is some suprestructure to conceal actual form of turret, tank is suspiciously too high. I expected unmanned turret to reduce height of tank.

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    Armata soon to be in service.

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    Uhm, yeah, but why would it lack actual smoke grenade launchers then? It's Illogical. The placements just shows that it's a 360 degrees fast smokescreen deployment solution, linked to LWS. The quotes say the same thing.

     

    Well, maybe you're right :)

    But we have to wait untill actual vehicle is revealed

     

    P.S. Have just done some blitzgoogling on that matter.  APS system is mentioned in many publications.

    http://warfiles.ru/show-44354-poyavilis-pervye-izobrazheniya-boevogo-modulya-dlya-noveyshih-btr-bumerang-i-bmp-kurganec-25.html

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    Armata soon to be in service.

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    That photo originates from vpk.name news site (not manufacturer) IIRC. It does indeed looks like a new version of Drozd APS. Thus the confusion. But the potent info is more reliable, don't you think?

     

    Living in Russia I wouldn't be surprised patent to be full of BS (not Black Sea). Anyway, my gut feeling says it is APS, not smoke grenade launcher. It doesn't look like smoke screen grenade launchers, it's direction angles and attachment locations hints it is in fact an APS. Especially that two pods on turret's back. But is does look strongly similiar to Drozd APS.

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    T-90 tank documentary (2014 in Russian)

    in Combat Mission Black Sea

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    Yes, I said robot tank. Thank you for the plethora of knowledge. You have so much which I have enjoyed on John Kettler.com. During WWII, my family member drove a tank (tank commander). It brings me great pleasure to know there are now robotic tanks to protect our men. Let our men and women come back home, sit on the computer, and run these machines. We need to enjoy their great company while their are still alive. We love them so much.

    Thanks John Great video!

     

    Russians experimeted with remote controlled tanks ("Teletanks") in 30's. Some of them were used in Winter war. Later T-72 based teletank prototype was developed but didn't go into production.

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    Armata soon to be in service.

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    We could make a poll and bet how will the Armata be, then when it is displayed in March (hey, phun here) we can see who was close.

     

    I really like Russian wartoys, I think the concept of war for Russians is different than for western armies. Western armies try to focus on training, efficiency and technological superiority, eastern armies focus much more on massed numbers as they can field loads of soldiers; Russia is something between both concepts, good equipment and training but everything cheap and not topnotch because they will send loads of people if war comes. This is what I think and I think it is close to reallity.

     

    What eastern armies are relying on "massive numbers". China comes to mind, bot inrecent years they have turned from massive "people's army" to more compact professional one.

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