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And then what happens is the Russians set up their batteries in more densely populated areas, similar t what the separatists do.

LOL, thank you very much! It goes to show how bad the memory of a 17-year old can be in a 72-year old! Hey, I’ll bet I can claim to be single now when I make a stupid or inane statement

The construction of the buildings really doesn’t really matter, and shouldn’t be an indicator. My wife and I took a two week Baltic cruise in 1990. One of our stops (two or three days), was in Leningrad. We toured the city, Peter the Great’s summer palace, the Hermitage, etc. one of the things that most stood out to us, was that even though Leningrad was a beautiful city, much of the surrounding areas, and in fact large sections of Leningrad, struck me as 17th or 18th century style construction. In fact there were blocks in the city that were barren with no houses. Our guide told us that was due to many residents s5ill using wood to heat and cook, so fire was a real danger.

No one in this thread has suggested that you “must” maintain a neutral viewpoint, just that your comments be related to the conflict at hand, and that if you accuse, you provide incontrovertible proof of your accusations. What we all must remember is the Andy a few posters on this forum are actually on either side in the war zone. Therefore our “suggestions, rants, comments, etc.” mean absolutely nothing from a practical point of view. Please try to keep that in mind.

When I was studying Spanish (Castilian) in high school (secondary school in some countries),I learned a poem by a Spanish poet. As it was about 54 or 55 years ago, I don’t remember the poet’s name, or even if it was written before the Franco regime. I ask in advance that Spanish speakers forgive any spelling or syntax errors. The poem, and it’s translation goes like this; “En esta Mundo tratador, nada es verdad ni mentido. Todo es la color del crystal buscamos habias.” “In this traitor world, nothing is truth nor lie. All is the color of the glasses through you look. Additionally, please look at the number 6. Remember that from a different perspective or point of view, it might also be a 9. please keep those things in mind when you post, and provide actual proof from a known, reliable source when making accusations on either side of the argument.

It wasn’t “given back,” the 99-year lease expired, and PRC was under no obligation to renew it. Don’t forget, the “lease” resulted from the British/China Opium War that Britain won, gaining the” HK lease,” and the “right” to sell Opium in China, which had previously been punishable by death.

Gee, do you think that the reports of Russian “Special Operatives” putting on Ukraine uniforms, and driving Ukraine vehicles to infiltrate UKR cities and such contributed to that at all? Of course that will tend to create a panic situation and reaction of the population. It happens in every conflict where media reporters decide they want to take that risk in order to be “you heard it first here.”

While I understand the sentiment, I don’t agree with your statement. Since many here like to use references to Iraq, I will say this, and please understand that my assessment is based on having been a Marine Infantryman. If I was commanding a column of AAVs (amtracks), and a car came speeding down the road towards us, and if the lead AAV veered off to stop the speeding vehicle, I’d probably recommend the lead AAV driver for a medal for fast thinking and selflessness to save the rest of the column from a possible VIED. I honestly respect the driver of the armored vehicle for the same thing. Now I don’t know for sure why the driver did what he did, but if it is as I assume, I respect his courage regardless of whether he is considered an enemy or not. in Iraq, we had snipers that would take out the driver of a vehicle that was approaching in a threatening manner. I would never depreciate the courage of ANY combatant based on his or her alignment.

If you’ve going to make accusations, please post proof that European and USA tormented and provided material support to the protesters to cause a change of leadership in Ukraine. Hey, maybe those Americans and Europeans were “on vacation.” It appears that would be OK, right?

You seem to have forgotten the fact that Russi, with the USA, signed a treaty, or an agreement (I forget which, that if Ukraine gave up it’s nukes, Russia and the USA would respect it’s territorial integrity. Russia violated that in 2014 by supporting the separatists. Next treaty/agreement violation please.

Probably not, since CM missions have a timeframe of 2-3 hours, at the most. Even the longest campaigns are only days in length.

Russia, as a state since it’s inception 1,000 years ago or more has always been xenophobic (fear of outsiders)because of all the invasions it’s suffered from outsiders, right up to the the joint British/Us invasion at Arckangel in 1919, and of course Operation Barbarossa.Tzar Peter the Great was the first Russian monarch to literally drag the nobles, kicking and screaming, into the 18th century. The xenophobia has existed in Russia for so long, I’m actually starting to think it’s become part of the Russian collective DNA.

It all depends on the munitions in the dump. Contrary to popular belief, even cartridges don’t usually fly off when they ignite.

If you look at any political discussion between nations or treaty organizations, it’s always about obtaining advantages based on previous conflicts, instead of “How can we, as prospective opposing belligerents prevent the misunderstandings and perceptions from causing another conflict. Politicians almost NEVER learn from history, and so we are doomed to repeat it. Ergo the talk of “reparations.” Didn’t the victors of WW I think that was a good ideas “ to punish the Hun?” How well did that work? Felt great from the vengeance aspect though.

Actually, it might be having the exact opposite effect in showing that the EU isn’t swallowing his BS anymore, and is uniting against him. Nothing unites a political faction faster than recognizing a common threat.

Much more than you know perhaps. I pride myself on being an amateur historian. I know the basic history of Eastern Europe from the creation of the Kiev Rus up to the present, and there is plenty of blame to be spread around for conditions and politics of today. I’m probably one of few former USMC (1969 to 1982j who know the underpinnings of the U.S./Vietnam conflict, and how it could have been prevented by FDR when asked by Ho Chi Min for weapons to drive the Japanese out of “French” Indochina, any guesses what his decision was? I tend to asses situations based on knowledge of the region’s history, and not nationalism. And, I despise “revisionist history.”

Keeping warfighters (the Nuevo term for actual battle personnel) in the dark, and knowledge restricted to the immediate operation, is standard practice among ALL militaries in the world. What one doesn’t know about operational plans cannot be divulged if one is taken.

For all those who don’t know history, Arkhangelsk was the location that a joint British/US expeditionary force landed to help the White Russians defeat the reds. They failed of course, which is why the World order is as it is today. Name choice seems to have symbolism in this forum.

LOL, , i don’t think he’s a New Englander, so he might not get that reference! I’ll explain the meaning here for all those who have never heard it. Pissing into a hurricane means that the only thing that will result is that YOU’LL GET WET!

I was discussing the terms of Russian military service with a veteran of the Chechen war. He told me that the first compulsory service is the lowest level of experience. If one wishes to remain in service after the compulsory service and become a Noncommissioned Officer, they sign a “contract.” It”s basically the same as re-enlisting in the US military, except they are then referred to as “Contractors.”

No offense to anyone who is risking life and limb to show us all these vids, but I, as “Mark Twain” said, “believe only half of what I see, ano nothing of what I hear!”

I suspect that UKR people and leaders are just as intelligent and competent as any. I doubt that they will assume that a loud-mouth braggart has-been speaks for the entire US population, and I am in the same political party as him. We also have a “silent majority” that doesn’t align with either ridiculous extreme. I swore an oath to “preserve and protect the Constitution on a number of occasions, and I, unlike some, take my sworn oath seriously. My apologies to all, and probably do “need a vacation.”

True, but perhaps Russian planners grossly underestimated the training, experience, arming, and will of the UKR military. The truism “you always plan to fight the last war you fought.” I’ve been around a long time, and that seems to apply to all military planners.

They could be “bullet sponges” to depreciate the UKR weapons supplies before they send in the “elite.”

Sorry for any misunderstanding. My comment was meant to apply to the question of why the UKR hasn’t destroyed them.