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purpheart23

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  1. You give your opponent your public IP address. That's only the start of your problems though, then there's hoping you don't get the "opponent has left your match, the battle is over bug" when they're in setup or if you make it that far after the driver issues required to run the game. Always fun fighting the software instead of your opponent.

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    3 minutes ago, Phantom Captain said:

    First off, anyone who says they "hate all politicians they are all the same", is being intellectually dishonest or willfully ignorant.  If you can't tell the difference between fascist politicians that are working to overthrow our democracy and the democratic ones trying to save it, then.... I don't know what to say other than what I just said.  

    Second, on Rand Paul.  What Steve said.  Again, intellectual dishonesty or willful ignorance.  Your pick.  We know exactly why Rand does what he does.  

    He's a disgrace and an embarrassment.  

    I'm done.  I just had to say it.

    You're not done, you don't get to try to character assassinate me because you disagree with me and just walk away, that's what's known as a coward, you shouldn't let your effeminate emotions cloud your soft judgement.

  3. 6 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

    No, not really - all he was/is asking for is some proper oversight into how this money is going to be spent. Without going off into tangents, the U.S. has been spending a lot of money recently on weapons for Ukraine (while ignoring some other critical, domestic issues), so it's only rational that someone with some sense stood up and said, hold on, where exactly is this money going?

    Yes, thank you.

  4. To*,  additionally, grind your little axe with somebody that cares. I've made my point clear and if you disagree that's fine make your point and move on.

     

     

    1 minute ago, danfrodo said:

    to me this sounds like someone trying to cover for that f-ing snake rand paul.  Rand Paul has been pro-putin from the start and this was just his way of delaying aid to help out his homey, Vlad.  Oversight, my ass.  I am so pissed at rand paul I .... better shut up else I'll get a call from the FBI for threatening a senator :).  So I'll think I'll just be nice and nominate him for the 1st ever Oswald Mosley Gold Medal Award.

    We are sending weapons, not wagonloads of paper money.  and we already know our weapons are being used to kill Russians via all the dead Russians we see every day.  So the point is really quite pointless, unless all one is doing is repeating bulls-t from rand paul. 

    This is not Syria where we had to stop sending weapons because they were all getting sold to or hijacked by ISIS. 

     

     

  5. Just now, Battlefront.com said:

    Well, if your position just boils down to wanting some accountability tied to the $40b, I don't think you'd find anybody arguing against that!  Fortunately, I think we're not likely to see much in the way of waste on the Ukrainian side with this money.  Weapons are likely to wind up where they need to, eventually at least.  Less chance of money going to graft because it's stuff they are buying vs. getting cash.  Reconstruction money... well, a totally different kettle of fish.  The chance of abuse of that is huge and the lessons learned from Iraq and Afghanistan need to be applied.  Fortunately, there will be more time to work out the details for that.  Right now, speed is more important than precise accounting.

    Steve

    Yeah that's all it was. Not just the 40B, any bill really. I digress though. You'll do you in this forum. Thanks for the engagement.

  6. 15 minutes ago, keas66 said:

    You have not exactly posted any strong arguments for  your own position . I don't feel its the purpose of this forum to convince you of anything ...rather the opposite . If one has a strong opinion about some aspect of the conflict  - one usually provides some sort of demonstrable proof of the correctness of ones views  . So what are your actual arguments for not helping out Ukraine to the extent  that we are ?

    Thank you for chiming in.

  7. 3 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said:

    Sure, because nobody can see into the future.  However, there's a difference between making logical and sound arguments based on historical precedence and understanding the situation vs. pretending historical precedents don't exist and/or that they can't be learned from.

    I'll put it back to you.  Can you show a situation where appeasement and/or isolationism has not resulted in an eventual larger investment later on down the road, including war?  Yes I have a degree in history.  Yes I have spent my life studying wars and autocratic states.  But no, I'm not infallible.  Maybe you know of an example of doing nothing has worked, so I'm totally open to learning from you if you have something to share.

    Steve

    No I can't, but I never argued that. Nowhere in any post that I made to I say I don't want to assist Ukraine in defeating Russia. Because I do, I just keep getting pigeon holed into defending my stance and inferred that I have some particular liking to a particular political side, I don't, I despise all politicians. All I want is accountability to the people of the United States for where our money is spent, regardless of who pays for it, it's coming out of our coffers and it should be measured. After the last two money pits of conflicts we've been vested in I think it's the least we should ask for. All my opinion of course.

  8. "No, you're wrong about this 100 percent"

    "Believe me if his party was in power he'd be leading the charge to send the money...and you well know it. "

    "You turn your back now and before you know it you are sending American combat troops to fight Russian combat troops in a place like Germany or Poland."

    Looks like a lot of opinion to me. @Battlefront.com

    6 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said:

    Not really. 

    Steve

     

  9. 3 hours ago, asurob said:

    We send billions out to countries all across the world...this is no different.  We help those who need it.  Isolation doesn't work in a global society.  The Russian attack on Ukraine WAS an attack on all of us.  We manage to foot the bill rather easily for things that blow up.  This is no different.  You turn your back now and before you know it you are sending American combat troops to fight Russian combat troops in a place like Germany or Poland.  No, you're wrong about this 100 percent.  As is a certain Senator from Kentucky who does stuff like this all the time so he can be in the news.  Believe me if his party was in power he'd be leading the charge to send the money...and you well know it.

    Whole lot of conjecture, thanks for chiming. Next!?

     

  10. 1 minute ago, asurob said:

    We're Americans, it's what we do...we help the world when it's in need.  When this war reaches it's conclusion, Ukraine will need more than ATGM to rebuild it's shattered economy.  Unless you're in favor of it falling away from democracy and into a fascist type regime.   Sounds' like you're a Rand Paul fan, so likely you are...

    Lmao, don't try to gaslight me dude. Hilarious, what are you 5 years old?

  11. 12 minutes ago, billbindc said:

    Since Ukraine doesn't exist in a bubble and neither do we, we are involved whether we like it or not. That means we need to put our political power and money where it counts to produce a resolution that works to maintain a global order that's quite significantly canted in our favor. Ukraine did work mightily to prepare for this scenario but they were limited by innate capability, the then state of interstate politics in the EU, the ability/willingness of American administrations to help. For our part, the strategic goal should be to a; recognize that Russian aggression on this scale is highly destabilizing to the international order, b; pursue what means are feasible to put a stop to that aggression now and c; ensure that such aggression in the foreseeable future is not going to reoccur.

    We created the global order and benefit enormously in a myriad of ways large and small. $40 billion is a small price to pay to maintain it.

     That's where we disagree, all good til we need to foot the bill for something not even in our hemisphere of control. Another nation rebuilding? Those have been going swimmingly for the last quarter century, all at the final tally of trillions of dollars to future generations. You'll never convince me that dumping 40bn into Ukraine right now is a good idea, especially without oversight. I do appreciate the well thought out response though.

  12. 1 minute ago, keas66 said:

    So you are proponent of American Isolationism  ? That worked out so well the last time around now didn't it .

    That's conjecture, no i'm a fan of being fiscally responsible where it makes sense, we've already armed them with AT, Artillery, ISR assets, who knows what else. If anybody needs to fork over that money, it's the EU, after all they stand the most to lose. When the money finally moves, because it will, politicians gotta get paid you know, why not get receipts?

  13. 32 minutes ago, Harmon Rabb said:

    Blocking aid during a time sensitive crisis situation where lives are on the line.

    Stay classy Rand. :rolleyes:

    We have our own issues, with supply chains, inflation, housing costs, last thing we need to do is print 40 bn more dollars to send to Europe to be laundered and for a war that's well on it's way to being decided.

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