rudel.dietrich

Who were those people Steve? Syrias AA network is I would venture to say is even worse than Iraqs circa 1991. They have mostly SA-2 and SA-3 missles for static SAMs and a collection of 60s and 70s and a little of early 80s AAA. Their radar network is poor and poorly mantained and even more poorly manned. SA-14s and SA-16s and the limited # of SA-19s would be their most potent threat since they are man portable and not tied into a radar network. Their SA-6s would also pose a mild threat. The problem stems from no airforce in the world having the airpower capable of holding even parity in the skies with the USAF with the USN added. You can have a fully modern AA network with high alltitude modern SAMs, low level SP SAMs, man portatble SAMs and modern radar guided AAA, tied in with a modern radar system and manned by a elite staff. But without your own airforce up in the skies, you will still not be able to keep your own system intact for more than a few weeks. Syrias defense against airpower would be tactics. As shown in 1991 and even better in Serbia in 1999 is that even modern airpower with percision weapons has trouble against a dug in enemy in a static defense. The newest evidence from 1999 shows that the air campaign was not nearly as successful as first thought due to the Serbian army having very little of its forces in motion. Modern airpower is extremly successful in inderdiction work against forces in transit. It is also great against infrastructure and communications. But if a army was able to get in posistion before a conflict and able to break down its communications to only needed to rely on communications within its immediate unit, then I think they could successfully shurg off even a heavy air bombardment by even the Americans. I think Syria would have that advantage. In fact over the last 6-7 years that is what their military has been trying to mold itself into. A static force that is able to act on its own without needed to rely on communications from higher up the chain of command.

Does the US really use that many guided munitions for group support? I figured most of that would be Mavericks and conventional 'Iron' bombs and submuntions bombs When we were in Afghanistan we called in quite a number of Nato airstrikers and the controllers who were with us told us 90% of what was being dropped was non-guided. In fact most of it was just a slight improvment in what was avaliable in WW2. Unguided rockets and 'Iron'bombs. The few times we needed something pinpoint, we got Maverkicks since the targets usualy did not need the full power of a bomb. Out of everything I saw dropped I would venture to say that only 5% of it was laser of GPS guided.

:eek: :eek: :eek: what kind of machine are you running?!?!? </font>

My computer chews up anything I toss at it, so stuff in all the polygons you can and let me run the game in 16x AA and 1920x1200 :cool:

Heh, that bothered me too. I have not seen hexes in place of circles since the Nintendo 64 days :eek:

No AC-130? No F/A-18? I figured either one of those would be alot more common than the F-117 How about Blackhawks? AH-6J? AH-1G?

Steve When the art team gets them done, can you send me some screenshots of the SF uniforms? I have about 20 or so pictures and perhaps I can suggest a few tweaks. Sending you the pictures would be the best way to do it But well...we would both get in trouble

Do you have a aircraft list up yet? And can UAVs spot and fire Hellfire missles both?

Armour and APC crews had solid black uniforms and infantry had tiger stripe grey and black uniforms. Red helmets do indeed sound like parade ground helmets.

I have no evidence at all that T-90s have been sent to Syria or anywhere in the ME for that matter. Algeria is the only nation I know of outside India that has placed an order or had test models delievered. A platoon of T-80s were delievered to Syria in the spring of 2002 and then returned probably by that winter. Reports were that the Syrians were not overly impressed with the tank but ordered several hundred anyways along with a mountain of spare parts for their aging fleet of T-72s and BMPs. The deal has been finalized but as of yet no delieveries have been maded since Syria owes Russia quite a bit of money. The T-90 is not even widely used in Russia and has seen limited production. I find it hard to believe that any ME nation has put in a order yet. The rich Arab nations and Egypt have seen the light and are ordered Western European and US hardware. Those are the only nations that could afford the T-90 at this point. So... The T-80 would be more logical to added in a early module with the T-90 coming later. I think everyone including myself would like to see both added in at some point. [ December 30, 2006, 09:32 AM: Message edited by: rudel.dietrich ]

The guards division has different uniforms from what I have seen. Black cloth and officers have dark red steel helmets.

The muzzle velocity of the 73mm BMP-1 cannon is pretty high, just on kinetic energy alone it can punch through a slat cage and impact the armour directly. The problem will be hitting the target in the first place. Those guns are essentialy RR with limited stabilization and poor optics.

In my experience they would disembark as soon as fired upon. The problem was that they would never re-embark and thus gain back the advantage of being mechanized. The AI would also disembark in odd places like the middle of forests or in rocky terrain or a long ways away from a objective and then make the infantry walk. Very odd behaviour

I have not seen this answered anywhere, nor did I comes up with an answer after a quick search. How will airpower be modeled? Will we purchase say... A F-16 variant with 2 MK-82s 4 Mavericks and the 20mm cannon? Or will we be able to purchase say a single Maverick missle strike from a unnamed aircraft?

What is the doctrine in the US Army/Marines? When we were truck mounted we were told to dismount at the first sign of gunfire. When APC mounted we were to stay in the vehicle as long as it was small arms fire. When other things started being added to the mix we were to dismount. If we came under mortar or artillery fire we were to dismount ASAP

That is the problem I ran into I have mountains of reports on these guys, but very little on their role in actual open warfare. In fact I am going to say that an actual uniform does not exsist. But I would also venture to say if war broke out in Syria that things would change since they are legally allowed to be there and have no reason to hide their nationality. From what I can tell, their uniform seems to almost look like the uniform of any Western counter terrorism unit. Black or smoke gray with black kevlar or steel helmets, black body armour and covered in special equipment, weapons, gernades, pistols and ammo magazines. In the recent skirmish with Israel they opereted in uniforms to blend in with Hezbollah, so that helps us none. I will dig up more info, but I would definitly model their uniforms to be a blend of the regular Syrian army and counter terrorism units.

I am working on uniforms for you. Unfortunatly most of what I find is about their activities outside of actual warfare. So that is of little use. What else do you need data on?

I was not blocking just you or on purpose. I have that account set up for special purposes and only allow in mail from a safe list. If I know someone is trying to mail me I will add you to the list. Otherwise everything gets put into my 'spam' mail and then deleted without me ever knowing. So please dont be offended And as I said before, if you want to mail me. Let me know ahead of time and give me the address and I will make sure to put you onto my safe list so that your mail gets through.

I think BF has the data they need on the models. I think the only T-72 question left is if Syria has the T-72S or T-72S1

I probably did not get it. I only allow e-mail from addresses I add to a safe list. If anyone wants/needs or has sent me e-mail. You need to let me know ahead of time. Using the PM system of the forum is a pretty good way or reaching me if you need to do so in private.

I think it is going to come down to who understands modern combat and who does not. Destroying a single vehicle and a handful of infantry would be a victory for the Syrian player. Mutiply this times a few hundred and over the course of a war you will have more casulties than any western nation has endured since Vietnam. Armies are smaller and more expensive than ever so losses hurt more than ever. You cannot play a modern wargame with a WW2 mindset and expect to have fun or know what is going on. I expect after the beta starts and people begin to do AARs and post screenshot that people will begin to be won over. Then one a demo comes out it will win over more people. Some will never be won over. But they are either closed minded or just do not enjoy the modern time scale. Not alot can be done about those people. And while Steve says the focus of the game is not in occupation type warfare. If we are given a miltia TO&E we can easily create occupation scenarios to our hearts content. I have said it before, but scenario design is going to make or break this game. BF as always will give us an excellent foundation to work with, but scenario designers are going to be the ones who make this game either work or fail.

I hate speaking for BFC and if I am wrong I hope Steve corrects me. But I believe that SF WILL be in the first release based upon my communications with Steve. As will, milita units, regular army and guards. That leaves out airborne units and Hezbollah units to be included later. As for their use. I think you have it mostly correct. I have read that they would be broken down into company/platoon size and inserted around the country among regular army units to assist them and give them a 'morale' boost. I am of the opinion that the regular Syrian army would stick around and fight against the US. It has training and planning to fight without being connected to a higher HQ. And the US would be sure to sever communications like it always does. The initial war would be bloody for both sides and then the occupation would be a bloodbath.

I have not been ignoring your e-mail from a few weeks ago about uniforms. I have been working up some stuff that might be of help. Assuming it is not too late. Sorry for the delay Data is hard to come across as I am sure you guys have experienced.

I am assuming under the hood that the armour and weapons model is a hell of alot more complicated than simple colour coded symbols, correct?

Can we see a vehicle that is in the game? Will each weapon have a info panal? i.e. if a squad is carrying a RPG-7v can I bring up a info panel on that and anything else the squad is carrying?