dan/california

Oh come on i have o edit every thing I paste to achieve some minimal legibility. The rest of you can't compete. Edit: tree times

Can we get unlimited likes, just for this week?

Some of us hold out hope for a new simulation that incorporates data from this war, and explore these questions in detail. Alas it is still in closed beta or something, something. And yes the other watch spring popped.

So much good news I can barely read it all, GrigB, Haiduk, Beleg, everybody providing translations is greatly appreciated. This line from kraze was so funny I almost sent my coffee across The room. GLORY TO UKRAINE!!!

I am starting to suspect they carefully some of them to be captured.

Melting in the autumn sun.

Why they play the game. Talking my own book here, but Putin's health is a significant extra wildcard.

You ok Dan? Looks like a seizure or some sort of ecstasy filled uncontrollable palsy from all the good news. Six months is a long time to keep winding a watch spring, something might have popped... Pupils are are still the same size though.

One more medium sized question, if the Russian empire is truly coming apart the seams would we care if Ukraine acquired another oblast or five? Maybe Belgorod or Rostov on Don are suddenly overwhelmed by the urge to be run by sane people? Sane people with a proven army, maybe they have few nukes laying around to buy in with? Sounds nuts but these questions could be very real next March

One more medium sized question, if the Russian empire is truly coming apart the seams would we care if Ukraine acquired another oblast or five? Maybe Belgorod or Rostov on Don are suddenly overwhelmed by the urge to be run by sane people? Sane people with a proven army, maybe they have few nukes laying around to buy in with? Sounds nuts but these questions could be very real questions next March

One more medium sized question, if the Russian empire is truly coming apart the seams would we care if Ukraine acquired another oblast or five? Maybe Belgorod or Rostov on Don are suddenly overwhelmed by the urge to be run by sane people? Sane people with a proven army...

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Except what about the nukes? How the do you deal with those? Everybody knows, or at least assumes, that the Ukraine invasion would not have happened if they had kept the nukes in 1991. That is going to be uppermost on the minds of every single mafia boss looking to move up to head of state of Inner Crapistan. Not to mention ten or 15 bad actors bidding for the bleeping things. Honestly if I was in charge of Ukraine it would have some prominence on my to do list too, absent actual NATO membership.

Brave men died every hour, for months, to make this offensive possible. Their courage and the sheer iron nerve of the AFU general staff simply awe me. Peace to their families. Glory to Ukraine. Napalm to the Russian bastards.

There are two or three hard first questions. Are we trying to keep Russia together or break it apart? Are we trying to make Russia pay for all of the damage to Ukraine? Or is the risk of Versailles type bitterness too high if we just seize half of their oil and gas revenue for the next twenty years? Extracting real money from them pretty much requires that Moscow remain in control of the whole country? What is the best way to unwind 500 years of bad government and worse decisions while trying to keep a handle on several thousand nukes? Are treaties with the current Russian government even possible given the extent to which they lie about everything, all the time? Secondary considerations, how much do we care if China benefits at Russian expense? would a relatively free hand in Russia convince China it has better things to do than destroy the world economy by attacking Taiwan? Can we break the the lock the current Moscow elite has on the oil and gas revenue? Is ANYTHING resembling decent, never mind democratic, governance remotely possible in any significant portion of this mess. Oh, and can we manage a government change in Belarus that puts it on trajectory that vaguely resembles Ukraines at acceptable cost? Do we have a choice? There is probably a Phd in foreign relations in the answer to each of those questions, but I don't think we can wait that long.

Wins the internet today.

Read the whole thread! Not just me BSing.

Babushkas will sew more. Sheets boiled with food coloring if that is what it takes.

Please let his next broadcast be from the chow line of a POW camp. Edit: Would he technically be a POW? Or could they just accidentally leave him in handcuffs in room full of AZOV widows.

March them west in chains, when they are far enough west make them build their own camps....As fun as that would be I expect the AFU have done more planning than that.

Ahh schadenfreude my dear, dear friend.... Do you think the new propagandists will have to shoot the old propagandists on live TV? Or will the the new batch appear by immaculate conception with never a whisper of the previous crew.

If they pull the VDV out of Kherson all the other Russian forces on the right/west side are going to evaporate. The Russians are a few shot down helicopters, or one well HIMARsed train from collapsing right out of this war.

A while back someone asked what winning looked like....Put your coffee down first, you have been warned. Edit: someone beat me to it, but it is funny enough to put coffee down again, and watch it two or three more times.