Jump to content
Special Upgrade 4 Tech Tips

Aragorn2002

Members
 View Profile  See their activity

  • Posts

    6,278

  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    13

 Content Type 

Posts posted by Aragorn2002

    Fire and Rubble Update

    in Combat Mission Red Thunder

    Posted · Edited by Aragorn2002

    5 hours ago, BFCElvis said:

    @Aragorn2002I have given you an exact release date. There is no more need to ask for one anymore. Additionally, because we have an exact date announced, it is irrelevant to speculate on why that is the release date. What would doing that change since we have the exact date already? It won't change the date. Those that know why it is that date are bound by their NDAs and those that don't know...no other way to say it....don't know. If the delivery of the module is the only point of interest for you then I'd suggest you give yourself some space and take and deep breath and come back on January 7th. 

    If you're interested in other aspects of the module and/or Combat Mission we'd love to hear from you. Your input is valued, appreciated and welcome.  

    Unfortunately I take your announcements even less serious as those of Steve.

    But it's nice to be appreciated.

    Btw, Bowie was born on the 8th, not the 7th...

    0

    Community Campaign Created by Multiple Contributors, Historical or Hypothetical

    in Combat Mission - General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Aragorn2002

    1 hour ago, Vergeltungswaffe said:

    I played in several CMMC's (Combat Mission Mega Campaigns) back in the day.  CMBB and CMAK.  Quite a few players and a team of umpires made it the most fun ever.

    The limiting factor is having enough people to umpire/gamemaster it all.

    Trying to involve BFC will be a non-starter imho, they won't have the time to deal with it in any way.

    Didn't you organize the Lauban campaign? Man, that was impressive. Would love to see that in Fire and Rubble.

    0

    HEADLINE: July 4th, 1944, Hitler Assassinated! Third Reich Surrenders to the West! [HYPOTHETICAL]

    in Combat Mission Final Blitzkrieg

    Posted

    5 minutes ago, mjkerner said:

    Dream on, you crazy diamonds! First we need Finland and the Continuation War. Then Barbarossa, then French Indochina, then Korean War, then US in Vietnam, and THEN, and only then, can you guys have your wishes fulfilled! Don’t fight me on this...it’ll only get ugly.☠️☠️

    I'm with you on Finland. After that you're just being silly. 😀

    0

    Fire and Rubble Update

    in Combat Mission Red Thunder

    Posted

    1 minute ago, Lethaface said:

    I think differently :) When they say 'things are looking good for a release in 6 months', you seem hold that as a promise. It is not a promise. It's a roadmap with a 'guestimation'. 

    Conceptually there might never even have been any delays in the development, there were just increments of work progressing at a invariable pace. Other work taking priority it means that development was perhaps not as fast as could be theoratically possible, but I assume nobody did ever 'delay' the development just because they felt like frustrating you.

    Well, to feel frustration is someone does to himself. I can't feel frustrated for you, nor can you for me (luckily :)). Games can't feel frustrated, or infer frustrations upon someone else. 

    So you choose, perhaps subconsciously, to be frustrated.

    Let's go for the Polder model and agree to disagree.  😎

    0

    Fire and Rubble Update

    in Combat Mission Red Thunder

    Posted

    3 minutes ago, Combatintman said:

    Fine - sit there and imagine Steve rubbing his hands thinking 'let's bid for a military contract just so we can delay the module for a couple more months.'

    I agree that a comment was made that said that COVID had allowed BFC greater focus on development but those of us that create content and kick the tyres around things have had other concerns as outlined.

    Stuff happens and RL is complex - this has been a difficult year for most if not all of us.  My wider perspective is that I'm lucky to be alive and therefore banging on about whether a game module is going to release in the next few weeks or not is very much lacking in perspective.  So yes it is about perspective and as I've explained I've got a lot more skin in the CMRT module game than you will ever have.  Mine is a sh1t tin of work, yours is, when you're going to spend 50 bucks or whatever it is going to cost.

    So - you're looking forward to the module ... trust me, we get it but please let's have less of the conspiracy theories about why it hasn't been released.

    What conspiracy theories? All based on facts. Your situation as a soldier, which you chose yourself, has nothing to do with all of this, although your military instincts apparently makes you want to conquer the morale high ground. Is all the delay due to COVID? No, it isn't. So yes, let's keep things in perspective.

    0

    Fire and Rubble Update

    in Combat Mission Red Thunder

    Posted · Edited by Aragorn2002

    55 minutes ago, Combatintman said:

    Happy to talk about that if you want ...

    I haven't seen my mother for over a year now because of the pandemic and probably won't see her until next year because of it - in fact I fear that I may never see her before she passes away.  I got stuck for three and a half months in Afghanistan because of the pandemic,  I got quarantined for two weeks when I finally got home because of the pandemic.  Three of my colleagues have died because of the pandemic and eleven have caught COVID-19.  Obviously as you should know quite well from your wife - the whole time I was in Afghanistan I was wondering whether I was going to wake up at zero late thirty with broken glass all over my bed, ringing ears and have to go out and shoot some bearded zealot carting an AK and a suicide vest.

    Then of course I have to worry that my wife's work dropped off the side of the cliff for a couple of months and thinking about how we were going to cope and when I got home having to focus on family life which is always a balance of doing good stuff and the inevitable jobs that need doing.

    Despite that, when I got home, I cranked out a ton of work on my scenario in order to support the earliest possible release of this module.

    Now that is not a developer's point of view, it is a testers point of view and I'm sure other testers have faced similar challenges.  I contend that:

    • It is facile to assert that COVID-19 has somehow given space for more rapid development.
    • A sense of perspective is required.

    Facile indeed. Argument of BF, not me. Probably to sweeten the bitter pill of the delay at the time.

    Apart from that, both my wife and I appreciate your presence in Afghanistan and dread to think what will happen if you guys leave that unhappy country. Talking about another disgrace...puts US honor in perspective. Although after what happened to the Kurds nothing surprises me anymore.

    But that's not the issue here, so little to do with a sense of perspective, unless we're again looking for a 'good' reason to explain the endless delay.

    Again, please quote me.

     

     

    0

    Fire and Rubble Update

    in Combat Mission Red Thunder

    Posted · Edited by Aragorn2002

    12 minutes ago, IanL said:

     

    LOL

    Guys, I have a suggestion. Put Aragon on your ignore list. It is much more pleasant to read the forum without reading his complaining. I only see his BS if one of you guys quote him - if you all place him on ignore I wouldn't even have to see that :D

     I didn't have a high opinion of you in the first place, but this is the limit. Can someone please quote me?

    0

    Fire and Rubble Update

    in Combat Mission Red Thunder

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, Lethaface said:

    To be precise you choose to be frustrated because you expected and assumed this module would have been out for years. While it was announced officially somewhere last year iirc?

    Of course already long time ago, probably after release of CMRT, there had been 'bones' that a module was on the roadmap for CMRT. And it has been worked on for a long time, and yes priorities change and the work on the RT module didn't get the highest prio. So of course we all get that it is a bummer that this module hasn't been out sooner.

    But I haven't read much promises. BFC always says it will be ready when it is ready, which is the most important promise imo.

    Just accept that they don't and will probable never (again) do promises regarding when exactly something will release, if it isn't finished yet. Perhaps for military contracts they do, but that's probably how those contracts work.

    You don't have any contract for the release of this module by any date. 

    It is much more relaxing to just accept how the world works, instead of trying to change or fight (and or get worked up) about the fact that this module hasn't been released yet. 

    i think your comments are plain wrong. This module has been in serious development for years and promises of imminent release have been made for longer than a year now.

    Choose to be frustrated my foot, old boy. 🙂

    0

    Fire and Rubble Update

    in Combat Mission Red Thunder

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, danfrodo said:

    Hey Aragorn2002, not meaning this in a disrespectful way, but have you ever written any code?  A single line of it?  If there's delays it's because they can see that it's not ready, probably in some stupid little corner case areas.

    Like you, I want my new toys and I want them now.  And BFC could deliver them now.  But they are known and expected to deliver high quality products.  They don't rush things out to meet some artificial marketing deadline.  And because of that we get better games; we also get less games.

    That may be the reason there's delay now, but also that is the result of all the previous delay, because of other reasons. I admire this company more than i can express and know how unique they are, but my point is that we've past so many deadlines, that 'rushing things' simply doesn't cut it anymore.

    0

    Fire and Rubble Update

    in Combat Mission Red Thunder

    Posted · Edited by Aragorn2002

    26 minutes ago, Combatintman said:

    Sure - but we could all take our tinfoil hats off about Steam, military contracts et al.  The latter reminds me of those discussions when Shock Force came out ... remember those ... "It is a click fest", "Battlefront is chasing military contracts"  Then remember that they all ended up in the Gamesquad Forum talking to each other and see how that went.  Remember that the introduction of real time play was described as all sorts of doom and gloom while conveniently forgetting that WEGO was still an option and still is ...

    The brown smelly stuff bust bottom line is that this module is being worked on, it will be next out of the door and as the saying will probably go ... it will be ready when it is ready.

    To give you some context - I have a scenario which I hope will release with the title - I started it in 2018, it is still not ready for release because of various issues.  This year alone, I have spent the equivalent of working every day, 24 hours a day for a month and a half and probably longer testing it, tweaking it, retesting it and stripping out every single unit in the scenario and replacing them again and then testing and tweaking again ... no fun when you have a regiment-minus of Germans and about the same on the Soviet side on a map that is roughly 3.5km x 3km - and that is smaller than it was originally made because of various issues identified in testing.  Then of course there is the time spent researching the scenario (it is historical) and making the map and then the time spent by the testers opening up the scenario, trying to play it and hitting the various issues.

    I won't even go into the work that other contributors have put into the module which make my effort above seem a small drop in the ocean.

    To conclude - the thing is being worked on and there is no "good reason for delay if you want to find it."

    People forget easily and the story of this module is one of a lot of promises of release and a lot of delay and frustration. The module is being worked on for years and years, so to say that it will be ready when it's ready isn't even funny anymore. I of course agree with you that it's a lot of work. I know that myself from my attempts to make a balanced scenario about the fighting near Wilkowischken in the late summer of 1944. But the development of this module for me is an all time low in the release history of BF. I think the reason why just about everything else did get priority over this module, is a financial one, because the Eastern front appeals just to a small group of wargamers. That may be understandable and sound policy up to a point, but for those interested in this module it's been a very frustrating affair. You can deny that and use all the cliches you can think of, but it's a fact. This has dragged on for years and years and it isn't exactly the first time that we are told that 'it's being worked on and we're close, very close'. My fear is that more delay will turn up and this time next year we will still have the same bloody discussion.

    If we're really that close, then start the pre-ordering.

    0

    Fire and Rubble Update

    in Combat Mission Red Thunder

    Posted · Edited by Aragorn2002

    On 9/24/2020 at 1:10 AM, Commanderski said:

    Listening to the Podcast with the founder at a little over the one hour mark he did say that Fire and Rubble was delayed due to the pandemic and their military contract but "will definitely be out this year".

    With only a little over 3 months left in the year it should be out soon.

    Well, if Steve promises that, we can rest assured....I also read somewhere that the pandemic gave the developers more time to work on the module. But hey, there's always a good reason for delay if you want to find it.

    0

    Fire and Rubble Update

    in Combat Mission Red Thunder

    Posted

    21 minutes ago, MikeyD said:

    This is blind speculation, but I wonder if CMSF2's move to Steam has thrown off BFC's planning. Should they put out the Fire and Rubble module in the usual manner? Or should they wait to see the results of partnering with Steam/Slitherine and adjust their release plans accordingly? Bear in mind, I've heard zero talk of this in the halls of the BFC office tower. But it would be logical for them to consider putting CMRT on Steam with the module... IF there have been no glitches with the partnership. There's lots for them to consider and it might take awhile before they have the data to reach any conclusions. BFC's had a very unusual year this year.

    For God's sake...

    2
×
×
  • Create New...