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I will like to suggest three books I have at hand; "Russia at War:1941-1945." Alexander Werth. E.P. Dutton & CO., INC. New York, 1964. "Russia's Heroes." Albert Axell. Carroll & Graf Publishers, INC. New York, 2001. "Night Witches. The Untold Story of Soviet Women in Combat." Bruce Myles. Presidio Press, 1981. I recommend Alexander Werth's book. Mainly because is written with a journalistic view and an overall account of the times. "Heroes" book is quite an interesting reading of heroic feats; Brest Fortress, snipers, Cossaks, Siberians, Jew Generals, "Night Witches"... On "Road to Stalingrad" John Erikson talks about certain commander, Beloborodov, who fought with his Siberian troops against "SS Das Reich", in a "bitter" clash, for the possesion of Istra in the November battles outside Moscow. Beloborodov's Army and "Das Reich" had a fight to the death again during the Russian Winter Counter-Offensive which followed, says Erikson. I was wondering who this commander was, lost between the mentioning of so many other commanders, armies and contested sectors of the Moscow front. Well, readings bring more readings, it's like magic. The book "Russia's Heroes" has an interview with the man himself. For those who are interested on tactics of river crossing, "Russian style", you may want to know what this man said.

Hi, I'm reading a historical narrative on the Spanish Bleau Division, (ie, the Epic.) by a Spanish author and veteran of this division. He gives a vivid account of the experiences he and many veterans had in the Volchov Front. Whenever he describes they were being attack by artillery fire, he mentions the kind of rounds being used in such times. i.e. 70., 120., 155., and 12,40. This are the kind of rounds being used and which I found when I retraced my reading in order to give this appreciation. The Blue Division was in the Volchov from, Oct. of 41' to May of 42', when it was ordered to the "outskirts" of Leningrad. Of their own artillery, the author mostly mention the 10'5. (105)'s. One very interesting account I've read is of the time when the river frozes and they have to pull back their guns from positions by the river's bed, in order to protect them from Soviet coup de'main's. It took them three days to dig them out from the ice. Talking about being dug in! The artillery men, besides being promised being sent back to Spain if they didn't make it in the next twelve hours, were told they will use animal traction after the guns had been dug-out. When they replied that there were no horses. That's what I mean answered the commander, and you sergeant will pull one of the four. This make me think that a battery could be four guns and that we need to differentiate between what can be a light howitzer and a field howitzer? ps: Of course, I wanted to lighten-up my "own account". Two of the guns where moved by two captured Russian tractors, the other two by horses and men together. The last two guns took thirteen hours to move, about three kilometers to a rear position. Still, I have a gut-feeling that this was a known joke between the Spaniards by the way the author pauses his words.

Hello again, any word from the beta-testers? Someone should do something before the invasion of the 14th year old grogs!

Hi, Andreas, I'm not sure if I understood your question but looking at those little symbols, it just tell me that those are battery positions which are already veryfied on map? I have at hand a book on German Defense Tactics against Russian Breakthroughs. A study of the Historical Division of USCOM. No names given of the former German generals and officers who made this pamphlet but half of it is maps, which is most likely of operations at divisional levels and not very detailed. Anyway, I hope someone else enlighten us. Thank you.

First thought I have when I saw the laughing man by the stairs (SoCal preview pictures), this man is having a jolly good time. You have earned your wings, one for SPR, the other one for your great sense of humor!(+ writing). I'm glad I only have an old cat, Gypsy, she despises any kind of learning machines (Note: I use this term to comply with German laws)and sticks to more conventional kinds of seduction. Oh! No, she's here again, in top of the keyboard, meowing for yet another massage.

Great! Books would be always a good recomendation, I had read some titles myself. Marshal Vasily Chuikov's; "The Beginning of the Road: the battle for Stalingrad." "The End of the Third Reich." Memoirs. Theodor Plievier's trilogy. "Moscow". "Stalingrad". "Berlin". This are three fiction novels Tarkovski"s movie "MY name is Ivan". I also saw a video once by the title "Come and See", a movie about Partians and "scorched earth" stories, very moving. If you please look in the posts of the last few weeks you will find my postings with other titles. Right now I'm reading Glantz's "Zhukov's Gretest Defeat", along with twelve other books on the subject. Konev, Manstein, Guderian, La Mazziere, Leon Degrelle, Cursio Malaparte, Zhukov... I also would recomend John Erickson's "Roads..." and Albert Seaton. I will also point out to a book edited by Hannes Heer & Klauss Naumann "War of Extermination: The German Military in World War II 1941-1944." It gives account of the responsability of the whole Wehrmacht with war crimes. In my experience as a reader, this helps not to be one-sided. Thank you.

Since posts come and go fast these days in the forum, I decided to have another go at the NorCal preview post. Anyone from Oaktown, San Francisco who is interested but don't want to show it? Andrew from Marin (Did he mention he is a modder?)should be screaming wanting to know the new graphics. I will be. Anyone else from the bay area? I'm too, in Berkeley.

I say, why not? it will be nice to be able to preview cmbb in the bay area. You didn't mean Eureka, right? We need more encouragment, not rope. Well, rope for those who won't deliver.

Grisha, I'm sorry I called the pictures of the miniatures great paintings ( a sign that I'm going blind), but hey, I will call cm a great painting too. It's only a question of perspective. Someone may say is a LOS issue. The pictures of the tanks are fearfull, as it always would appeal to the eye. In a totally different sense, it wouldn't be a bad idea to know of all those fearfull and terrific battles depicted in the dioramas done in childhood, when a child is a commander with a running nose and scratched knees. It will be fun to know, of those hard fought battles in the living room or garden? Refering from memory to writing those dioramas from the time before all talent was lost. Believe me, it can't be a bad reading.

Got it after reply, download just to slow on this end. Great Painting!

Great pictures, but liked the diorama best. Second diorama didn't open. It will be good to see. thank you. ps: imo, your dioramas are better than bones.

Dorosh, if you please would like to check my post of a week or so back I have one or two titles there, you may want to procure. I also posted a reply to your Kharkov question refering you to some titles and again to check for my postings. One of this books subject is a guide to the panzer legions in the German army. There is also two French Historians who may be of help in the subject of ss divisions, Jean Mabire and Eric Lefevre. This for reference, thanks. (Flap! Flap! Flies back to his post...)

Please check my posts for more titles. I also placed reply with titles on post "Why Kharkov was important".

Thank you, highlife for providing link. This editions homne page is Editions Heimdal mini-page, for all their new titles. Go to google and look for it. Sorry for not adding link. Generally I search for my books in libraries, not the browser. Highlife, I like looking at images of all kinds, even computer generated ones. My eye catched those photographs and made me think of you cmer's.

I found this using google. Editions. Heimdal. Try, you may not be disapointed.

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I wanted to provide a list of readings which I know of, to those who are waiting for cmbb. I like reading your posts on moonless nights, those are long, as you all know. Here is my list. Vasili Grossman. "Life and Fate". Trans. by Robert Chandler. Collin Harvins, London. 1985. Victor Nekrasov. "Front-Line Stalingrad". Trans. by David Floyd. Harvill Press, London. 1962. Theodor Plivier; "Moscow". "Stalingrad". "Berlin". This trilogy is a must, imo.Sorry, no editorial, or year. Konstantin Simonov; "The Living and the Dead". "Days and Nights". The first title is a novel about encirclements and the defense of Moscow. The second is about Stalingrad. Alexander Bek. "Volokomask Highway". Accounts of the life of Mumi Ulish, one of Panfilov's commanders and his actions before Moscow. Note; those are all social novels. Personal accounts Marshal Vasili I. Chuikov. "The Beginning of the road". The story of the battle of Stalingrad. 1967. "The End of The Third Reich". Trans. by Ruth Kisch, Introduction Alistair Horne. Macgibbon and Kee. 1967. Alexander Werth. "The War in Russia. 1941-1945". Panzer Aces (Note to myself. I too leave out many titles I know of, for those hurt by not getting runes!) So only three. Field Marshal Von Manstein's "Lost Victories". Henri Regner Company. Chicago. 1958. Samuel W. Mitcham Jr. "The Panzer Legions". A Guide to the German Army Tank Divisions of WWII and Their Commanders". Greenwood Press. Wesport Connecticut. London. 2001. Great source. I guess I will leave out Heinz Guderian's "Panzer What? Paul Carell's "Scorched Earth". a follow up to his "Hitler goes East". Covers many encirclements, cauldrons,retreats and Manstein's role in Kharkov Battles. Someone in the library scribbled in the edition I know that this guy's real name is Paul Schdmitt! But the book is ok. For people looking for very good pictures, what I'm flapping in my wings? a jewel picture book for the warring... LENINGRAD! by Francois de Leroy. Travel all through the Baltic countries with group "Nord", all the way before Leningrad in PICS. Well, we all know you can't take it, but you can invade HEIMDAL. They got a big edition going, I myself would like to see all their titles. Guess what I found hidding in so many good PICS! EDITIONS. HEIMDAL@ WANADOO.FR This is a modders must, just don't start talking patch before the event. John Erikson and Albert Seaton books are very informative. Follow the roads! Gerald R.Kleinfield and Lewis A. Tambs for those interested in Spanish Blue Division. VIDEOS.(I have seen some flicks from video-store/video-library). Tarkovski's "My name is Ivan". "The Cranes are Crying". "Come and See". "The winter War" (Finnish) Note to myself: Read; Russell F Weigley's "Eisenhower's Lieutenants". The campaign of France and Germany 1944-45. Blomington Indiana, University Press.1981. This note is because I'm still trying to figure out what that cmbo gold demo is about!

Thanks for the response. I want to let you know that I will be making some changes to my list and post it as new topic. Knac, there will be a book in English in the new list that had a good bibliography. Take it from there. NCrawler, Thanks for those titles, I will check them. Sabotai, it's a book, it's has lots of words, no matter how you take it, you have to micro-manage. good luck. I will look for this title myself. Of course, NCrawler, I would like to know Herr Kurowski. "Panzer Aces" is the book everyone talks about it in the forum, and I'm flying right now to get it. Note; I have to redo my list because my memory failed me, never mind, and some mispellings too. Here is the interesting part, to lock this post and do a new topic, or list. Thanks again.

Hi, I am adding to the list once more, but first a little clarification. Glanz's book above is about operation Mars on the Rzhev salient. Conspiracy, you may find Plievier the easiest to find, or Simonov. Another of Simonov's titles is "Days and Nights", a Stalingrad novel. Plievier's "Stalingrad is a must. Two books I misplaced and am reading at the moment. Leon Degrelle. "La Campagne de Russie". Collection Action. Art eHistorie d'Europe. This collection is edited by Jean Mabire. Jean Mabire seems to be a leading authoryt in the history of Wermatch. Another author to see in the same vein is Eric Lefevre. This two authors would keep anyone bussy who is interested in special SS formations. I have seen only one English translation of their work.Their work is in French. The next title is in Spanish for those fluent in the language who would be interested. "Orillas del Voljov" By Fernando Vadillo. I place this title because it reads like an epic, it is a dense book, many names, but entretaining and is only the first book of three! It's follow ups are "Arrabales de Leningrado" and "Lucharon en Krasnibor". Books that pictures the Spanish Blue Division in the Eastern Front. The last two books I haven't read but as the author mentions there were Spaniards fighting all the way to outside the Reichtag! Here I go back to a list from memory of even more titles of books read and yet to be read. Marshal G. Chuikov's "Battle for Stalingrad" and "Battle of Berlin". A must. Victor Nekrasov. "Stalingrad". This last titles as I say are from memory and books I have read, very interesting accounts. It was a clear sunny flying day yesterday and didn't make it to library. Many good sightings below!

Hi all,(Flap,Flap). For the subject on the battles of Kharkov I would recommend to read Paul Carell's book "Scorched Earth". It had information on the four battles of Kharkov, plus many other encirclements, cauldrons, pockets. I believe this his continuation to his "Hitler goes East", book. It gives a light on Manstein's role on the Kharkov battles. Another book would be John Erickson's "Road to Berlin". Which is also very detailed. I had posted my first post a day or two ago with a list of titles. Pls check, thanks.(Flap, Flap)flies away to his own post...

Hello! I have been reading the posts in this forum for quite sometime now and enjoying all your coments, there is some good talent for words here and a varied community. I am aware of the upcoming of cm2 and how tiresome is been for you all who have been waiting. Since what made me come back to the forum, at first, was the "coming soon" add for the game and the excitement of what it will be like when the game is out. But "soon" means "very soon" now as you all know. In the mean time this restlessness got to me by reading all about it in many of your posts. Well, maybe there may still be a "very" reasonable short waiting to do and I'm not Nostradamus to assure you of this. So I'd decided to register and post a list of readings you may procure in your library or browser?, while you wait. I will start from what I have under my desk, all library materials. Well, well, what do I got... Leon Tolstoi's "Sebastopol". A book about the siege of 1854-55! Ann Arbor Paperback.University of Michigan Press.1961. Manstein's "Lost Victories". Henry Regnery Co.Chicago, 1958. That title I found in a post in this forum and I am reading it, after picking it up from library. David M.Glantz. Zhukov's Greatest Defeat. University Press of Kansas, 1999. Stalin and his Generals. Edited by Seweryn Bialer. Pegasus, New York, 1969. This titles I have at hand 'cause I'm a library pigeon. But I have some titles I recall from memory. Constantin Simonov's "the living and the dead" or with another translation title "Victims and Heroes". Theodor Pleivier's "Moscow", "Stalingrad", "Berlin". Alexander Bek's "Volokomask Highway". Vassily Grossman's "Fredoom and Fate". Ilya Ehrenburg's "The storm". Note; all this are very old editions you may have to request out of storage. Good time at the library. Myself am going there to look for more titles. ps:This games are fine jewels, nothing fancy, only raw diamonds. Keep up the good word!