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2 minutes ago, Vanir Ausf B said:
Agreed.
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1 minute ago, womble said:
Russia owns the pipeline, or at least has full scale technical access to it. They could easily have inserted a maintenance pig into the line with the requisute quantiy of explosives on board and sent it downstream until just outside national territory. Piece of the proverbial cake.
This seems more possible than outside acrion
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Also I believe technically it was a difficult task for Russia to carry out. Unless there is a way to blow these from inside? How could they approach with submarine /drone and go unnoticed in high intensity waters scanned 24hr by hostile forces ? This perfection in execution doesn't feel very russian to me.
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3 hours ago, Battlefront.com said:
Your political bias is overriding your ability to objectively look at the facts.
As I stated earlier, the US doesn't have to lift a finger to help Russia keep up the pressure against it. Russia is doing a fine job all on its own. If the US blew it up eventually that information would come out and it would set back relations with Europe by decades at the very time that the US' influence in Europe is higher than it has been in decades. I question many decisions my government has made over the years, but I've never seen one that has used Russia style logic.
The US has no history of such action. Russia, on the other hand, is hard to examine without seeing many examples of attacks on its own people and infrastructure to support it's goals.
Who did it is very plainly obvious... Russia. The why, however, is still unclear. That is not unusual situation. Very often when Russia does something it takes a little while to figure out what their thinking was. And even then, it's often not very clear. Hell, we're still arguing about exactly why Russia started this insane war!
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I agree It doesn't have a made in USA stamp. But that doesn't mean that some 3rd party couldn't have done this under their guidance. If a single country expressed publicly their annoyance with the nord stream that was US through very official voices, Biden, Nuland etc...
Is Russia that irrational? Maybe. Until now they hesitated to admit they are blackmailing EU with the gas by referring to technical issues. Now they blow up everything like an angry madman. There must have been some very important motive to do this. Blackmail Europe further through the ukrainian pipeline? It didn't work so far. Divide Europe and USA? An internal matter between energy companies in Russia and the deep state?
Doesn't make much sense to destroy a valuable asset for ever, a negotiating card and a symbol of their prosperity and bridge with Europe. What is next, they will blow up their Kerch bridge
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4 minutes ago, Zeleban said:
In your posts, the influence of Russian propaganda is noticeable. Obviously, frequent exposure to pro-Russian resources does not benefit the objectivity of judgments
I read everything, from ISW to pro UKR Twitter, this forum and russian sources.
Why US is never to be blamed, they are very much benefiting from all this,while Germany, Europe and Russia are committing suicide. Is this russian propaganda?
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Hmmm, why should Russia blow up their own gas lines. They indeed lose their last card of changing the minds of EU. And destroying decades of prosperous collaboration with Germany. And that thank you from Poland official... We underestimate how ruthless US is as well when they are after their interests. Beyond Russia, target is Germany I think for not obeying the masters orders and being reluctant to be involved in this war. Now they don't have other choice. And we are here discussing the high ethics of the war with lord of the rings metaphors.
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Germany is like France in WW2. Pourquoi mourir pour Danzig(Ukraine) ?
And France was actually invaded. The truth is that cynically they suffered the least from all the nations involved. Maybe Germany hopes for the same....
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I find it incredible that people are so hard on Germany on the war thing. "Common, sell more Leopards Fritz, can't you see the opportunity !" It's like those people haven't studied WW2 all their lives and the scariest wound that war left to this country. A country that was painstakingly rebuilt brick by brick by the people left behind. And chose instead of planning to avenge the former rival to build a new relation that seemed like the logical bond.
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28 minutes ago, Kraft said:
How many billions of Greek debt was written off to not send your country into another crisis caused by its own government spending?
Easy on the blaming game because in a few years you will also be protesting against your new masters that will blame all on your government for corruption and spending too much on the war effort. A friendly advice.
Italy has sadly elected a neo fascist government and this says something about how bad things are going in Europe now. What will happen of Lepen gets elected finally in France
The end of the dream? I'm all for a united Europe but a lot of things went wrong with the economic strategy and that gave a push to nationalists and fascists to rise again unfortunately.
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1 hour ago, The_Capt said:
And make no mistake - we are going to be the new Israel here. And we won't be in NATO exactly for that reason, let's be realistic.
Hmm after this lengthy war is over Ukraine will probably be in debt for the rest of its existance. That means no sovereignity at all in contrast with Israel. West are no just friendly helpful pals but people that count their money. The economic flow towards Ukraine is insane at the moment. Expect IMF and the banks to hold Ukrainian national assets hostages for a century or so. But a small price to pay to bring Russia to its knees I guess.
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5 hours ago, LongLeftFlank said:
I wonder how long before the Saheed factory in Iran has a smoking related accident?
By the look of it though, the guidance package is the key bit (Chinese electronics?). Otherwise, it really seems to be a V1 level technology.
This looks and sounds like a flying Honda moto cub. But seems suicide drones like that don't need to be particularly sophisticated to be effective.
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6 minutes ago, Lethaface said:
he did say it. Look back at what he said. Israel fixing the root cause by killing all arabs.
The thin veil he has kept up to hide his morbid fantasies slipped a bit.
Anyway I'm done with the subject I just don't like reading extremist stuff if he keeps that for other websites that would be great.
Kraze has been posting stuff like this since the beginning of the thread. He hasn't received any warning, although in the written official rules here, it is cleary stated as hate speech and a reason to ban someone. On the contrary his posts often get multiple upvotes. Yes, the best war forum on the net...
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Huh? Sounds more like a flat Tyre
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The pro russian sources are talking about a UA waterloo with half the polish m1 fleet gone (60 tanks ko) and around 1. 200 Kia. There are quite a few videos to reinforce their claims and a rather silence from pro UKR accounts that makes this all more suspicious. Both sides sources are far from objective (understandable) but RU are lying a little more so I don't know what to believe.
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9 minutes ago, Huba said:
Beautiful if you don't know what is it...
Not sure how effective these are. Do they raise the temperature to the point you need to get out of the area affected or just set fires? Because their impact doesn't seem significant in the videos, especialy in urban areas like this. Probably much more effective against dug in infantry in the countryside. Impressive sight nonetheless.
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4 hours ago, Zeleban said:
What kind of Russian missiles like HIMARS intercepted Ukrainian air defense?
According to UA sources, many missiles have been intercepted, among them even hypersonic Iskanders
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15 minutes ago, The_Capt said:
The presence of something that looks like RA BMD is a pretty good sign that the Russians are worried. Not sure where you are getting “slower than a V2”, it’s terminal velocity was around 800 m/s as well (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-2_rocket). Regardless, not a BMD expert but I do know that you try and hit them going up, at very high altitude near apex, because hitting them coming down is incredibly hard.
Yes, it's more like similar correct, I read that wrong.
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33 minutes ago, Elmar Bijlsma said:
The SAMs are exploding in the same place. They are sending them up on a pre-set in the hope the explosion does something. What you are seeing cannot credibly be called air defence, it is impotent flailing at an enemy they cannot not touch or even see.
You could be right but there are some really big booms as well up there, not something an AA missile would produce. They have claimed to have shot down quite a few, but they are probably exaggerating. But we are also exaggerating that HIMARS is invincible to AD systems that have proved to intercept similar RU missiles when in UKR service. HIMARS is actually slower than a WW2 V2 (but a smaller target )
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3 hours ago, Haiduk said:
Antonivskyi bridge in Kherson under HIMARS attack. Russian AD tries to intercept missiles, but several missiles hit the bridge
When the bridge was hit for the first time, I remember no active AD. Now I see a lot intercepts (not sure if every boom though is a kill). Seems RU are more aware now of the threat and probably a little more capable to shoot down HIMARS?
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Impressive strike. Could the simultaneous detonations indicate some behind the lines job taking advantage of the looser summer vibe in the peninsula? I have seen the HIMARS strikes and they are always sequential, unless you can program two or more missiles to hit the same time. Russians continue to deny to take this war as seriously as it is and I'm not talking only about the crimean tourists. Even those people in swimming suits might have guessed this is not a special operation anymore.
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Yes, that must have been stressful for RU wondering what new western toy will land on their heads each different week.
I don't know if Ukraine has a time limit as well, as there are domestic and international conditions in play that are not very clear yet but certainly Russia is the one in more hurry.
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Just now, Huba said:
I'd agree with that. What is worth noting is that UA forces (at which we mostly lack visibility, and rightly so) must be big enough as a force in being to warrant the accumulation of RU units there. Question is, could RU withstand just sitting there under HIMARS fire, facing increasing UA forces, would their morale allow for that? Or will they have to keep attacking to sustain their momentum?
My guess is that RU are not there to forever stand still and defend until UKR has tank divisions and a pile of HIMARS. They will probably move first. At the same time any major offensive against a presumably big UA force could spin into a disaster that could cost them Kherson sooner. A tricky situation.
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Kherson offensive won't happen any time soon I think . If at all. They are indeed keeping RU forces pinned there with the eternal threat of a counter hoping to relieve other sectors or baiting them to attack first . Some signs were too obvious like the mailed instructions to citizens there...seriously?
Ukraine can't materialize a counterattack plan with at least local arty superiority or enough mechanized forces.
In fact RU forces there are more likely to start moving towards Mikolayev either to put an end to the continuous threat, or just by resuming the initial plan towards Odessa. And maybe that's Ukraine best chance, repel the attack and then hopefully counterattack in a more favorable fluid situation.
The end of the dream? I'm all for a united Europe but a lot of things went wrong with the economic strategy and that gave a push to nationalists and fascists to rise again unfortunately.
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