dieseltaylor

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/2011/feb/23/need-to-protect-internet-from-astroturfing Oh the joys of an unfettered state and a healthy democracy.

Its interesting what you can learn, about onions from Wkipedia. most particularly and now relevant was this: I have heard a few programmes aboutfood price and the benefits of a futures market but not one mentioned this! You see to my mind market manipulation IS a crime - unless you wipe yourself out. Driving other people bankrupt by manipulation - like bribing a weather forecast service surely must be criminal! But this is the USA so ........... Just to make it easy here is the nub of the Wikipeadia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Kosuga

Actually that makes it believable!. I have no doubt it is true. : )

If you know;this is funny.

More sensible?

: ) Oh very good!

Perhaps you should try the Technical Forum or start a thread on CMSF, or do a search. This forum is for interesting stuff : )

Asits a shipping thread : )

And they got off? How can you falsely claim it was tested by the FBI and then get off! WTF

I think it is right that politicians should own up to it being a difficult world and the basis on on what limited information they sometimes act. Unfortuantely there is a symptom that they think they should be God-like. I suppose for the simple-minded to learn that everything is not blackandwhite is too hard to handle - and as these people make up a big chunk of the electorate .......

But it seems to me that some guys don't want to be seen as schmucks and would rather the citizens lost $20million than face up to the con-job they fell for. Of course admitting the French rumbled it might mean IT IS natioanl security : )

Despite having clear rules on when not to invoke the state secrets privilege, the Justice Department has been blocking disclosures about a dubious technology that could prove embarrassing for the U.S. government. As the New York Times reported over the weekend, a computer programmer who claimed his technology could help the U.S. track terrorists received at least $20 million in government contracts [1] for this software, which intelligence officials suspected to be fake even in 2003. While contractor fraud isn’t new [2], what’s unusual here is that the U.S. isn’t trying to recover those funds or penalize the contractor, Dennis Montgomery. Instead, it’s fighting in court to keep information about the technology secret, arguing that the details could compromise national security. The Times notes that the clampdown in this case started under the Bush administration and continued under Obama’s Justice Department: The Bush administration declared that some classified details about the use of Mr. Montgomery’s software were a “state secret” that could cause grave harm if disclosed in court. In 2008, the government spent three days “scrubbing” the home computers of Mr. Montgomery’s lawyer of all references to the technology. And this past fall, federal judges in Montana and Nevada who are overseeing several of the lawsuits issued protective orders shielding certain classified material. A 2009 memo from Attorney General Eric Holder laid out the circumstances in which the state secrets privilege could be invoked [3]. Preventing embarrassment and concealing inefficiency or error were not legitimate reasons, according to the memo: The Department will not defend an invocation of the privilege in order to: (i) conceal violations of the law, inefficiency, or administrative error; (ii) prevent embarrassment to a person, organization, or agency of the United States government; (iii) restrain competition; or (iv) prevent or delay the release of information the release of which would not reasonably be expected to cause significant harm to national security. The Justice Department wouldn’t comment to the Times about its dealings with Montgomery. (Montgomery also declined to comment and when asked at a November deposition whether his software was a "complete fraud," he pleaded the Fifth, the Times noted.) Use of the technology led to several false starts and dead ends over the years, including a 2003 scare that prompted U.S. officials to order that several international flights be turned around or grounded. It even led to discussion of shooting the planes down, according to the Times: French officials, upset that their planes were being grounded, commissioned a secret study concluding that the technology was a fabrication. Presented with the findings soon after the 2003 episode, Bush administration officials began to suspect that “we got played,” a former counterterrorism official said. The C.I.A. never did an assessment to determine how a ruse had turned into a full-blown international incident, officials said, nor was anyone held accountable. http://www.propublica.org/blog/item/after-spending-on-dubious-technology-justice-invokes-state-secrets-details

Boot sectors can be sanitised I believe. At worse the hard drive can be reformatted.

That was good,. I do have his first book but not the later two. Still good videos and very interesting for the latest research ... I have sent my money to keep him going!

Just some background on Libya from HRW

I had no idea there were so many blind chicks in california! : ) *** Confidence definitely has a large role in initial meetings. So has her menstrual cycle : ) Not to mention alcohol level and venue. And how symmetrical your features are. And whether there is competition for you. *** In 2000, 1.7 million of 10.5 million California residents age 45 or older, and 755,000 of 3.5 million who are 65 or older, had a self-reported vision problem.

Interesting story. And also a sad indictment on the future where cheapskating on the security is going to cost dearly. Friction - in that is what stops things being easy is actually a good thing is sadly being thrown away to make everything easy easy easy. Smartphone mayhem inside a year. But thing how much more destructive it will be when we have added NF payment to our phones to replace cash.

Thanks for the link Affy. Reading it one became interested in the actual numbers killed under his regime. In that taking a 40 year period in other countries might his record in deaths caused be actually lower? I had the feeling that it was under 5000 but against a population of 6.5million [now].

Interesting. One thing not noted in that snippet from Natural Health is that placeboes can be anything you want. There is NO standard placebo so you can put arsenic in and say your drug did better than patients taking the placebo! http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101018174335.htm

They don't know why! Hmmmm http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-02-oral-sex-linked-cancer.html

I do think that the concept of inviting poor people suffering from violence into your country has a long pedigree. However the US does seem ambivalent about allowing people in, particularly Mexicans : ) Most countries are happy to take in wealthy immigrants. And to be honest I missed a trick by suggesting only Arizona and Australia. NZ also has a preference for rich people, as has Cnada and Malaysia. To go to other Arab countries with loot might actually be cheaper for the US. Though the view that it was Europe, and particularly the US, for the dispossession of Palestinian Arabs and then shifting the onus to Arab countries to take the refugees is a little hypocritical. I do sometimes wonder if Israel has a vested interest in appearing to be a besieged beacon of democracy in a sea of Arab extremism - that way they get plenty of support and favoured military and trade status with the US. If all is peace and light in the Middle East then the need to subsidise/protect Israel disappears. That might seem far-fetched but then recall if you want to be in power in Israel then the far-right religious groups support is needed so there is some impetus not to negotiate seriously whilst more land is being settled. I am impressed to see that the British Prime Minister is already in Egypt. Perhaps China can be held out!

And yet the US thinks it can support regime changes in a its existing Allies ..... its a tricky one. I have long felt that the US would be better off if the annual billions in aid was spent buying Palestinians homes in Arizona or Australia and giving them a million bucks. At three billion dollars a year I reckon they could have bought most of Jerusalem now , now whether it is given to the Israeli nation or made an international university situated in Jerusalem it would still be a better method than the winkling out process that is being carried out by the Israeli authorities. I think this is a poison that may well mean the US becomes less important in the Middle East where China, and possibly Russia will pick up the slack. The ruling families will depart to Europe to live off their invested wealth.

: ) Affy , and the rest of the Antipodes crowd must get together more than I thought!

The thread has not been at all acrimonious, well certainly not if you are familiar with all the posters normal style. : )

I have a lot of sympathy for the Tea Party and can understand the frustrations. Everyone know that the Govt has failed to control Wall St. and the big bust - perhaps moreso politicians facilitated it. If there was some punishment going on people might have felt better - but apparently no one was to blame. That cannot be true and one really feels the sense of frustration could have been sharpened to this point but somehow what seems the obvious rallying call has been diffused away. The facilitation/infiltration of the Tea Party has been interesting to see as established interests attempted to use it. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/opinion/29rich.html Its a great shame that real feelings are agin being manipulated and the final message distorted. BTW regarding Wall St - http://www.propublica.org/article/banks-self-dealing-super-charged-financial-crisis