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Thank you Paco, good info....Paco you reminded me I need to finish up a couple of Spanish Civil War scenarios that have been lanquishing.

Corporal Hans is smiling The Leutnant seeing him smiling yet again shouts, stop that and I don't want to hear, "I told you the bridge wouldn't hold us" again. Jawohl Leutnant but I'm not smiling about that. Then what are you smiling about? Remember the General who shouted at you for half an hour? ahhhhh, yes he made me feel like the most stupid, most worthless officer in the world....did you think that was funny? How was I to know the bridge would collaspe? Is that what you think is funny? No SIR it is something else, the sign did say, it had a 15 ton limit. Ah I don't want to hear it, I missed that lecture on bridge limits during training. Is that what your smiling about, my not knowing about bridge weight limits? NO Sir, what I think is funny is that General is headed back this way with a two-meter long sharpen stake.

I meant to say that I have it but I haven't read it yet and wanted your opinion.

On the opening page of the great Scenario Depot you have at the bottom randomly occuring scenarios, operations and maps for the three games. Thinking of a casino do we get a prize if we get three of our own scenarios up in a row at one time?

I did pull one idea out of that book which is in the to do list, that of an American AT gun company that is sent forward to seal a gap when a battalion under fire falls apart. "Guns into the Breach", at some point I'll get to it.

try the viaduct tile (the dry land bridge) put end to end it may serve -

yes you can, as Sergei says, just bring up the full scale map, downsize using the shift keys and wallah, a sectioned map. I did so this afternoon

Ah it worked this time, please tell me there is a similar site for France?

Thanks Andreas Any info you have on that time frame would be appreciated. Do you have this book Die 1. Panzer-Division 1935-1945 by R. Stove ISBN 3-7909-0027-3

on 23rd May, 1940 that stopped a French counter-attack directed at Dury (the attack came n from the south south west of the Amiens bridgehead. Anyone know what divisional units might have been there at that time frame? Recommendation on sources?

Another very informative answer, the ony other clue I have is that the Sengalais were supported by Somua tanks. With no more informative information I'll defer to the 24th. Now to figure out whom the Germans might have been?

I thought about that myself. I would recommend using British or Italian 1940 armour vs 1945 German or Allied armour A Mark II cruiser vs a King tiger or Panther might come close to Turtledoves vision

MC if you don't get a response let me know and I'll scan and send to you what you request.

Actually I think I'd be happy just to see it

Found my notes on that book, I would recommend Page 192 which shows the situation prior to a german counter-attack at Monte Altuzzo. I found CMAK editor not to be up to the challenge of recreating the terrain for this mountain battle. Page 237+ when company K attacks knob 3 I didn't find anything specific in the River Crossing at Arnaville that was doable, most of it depended on a heavy use of smoke generators. A map on page 71 is probably a great source for a "what if" scenario. The German counterattack of 12 September shown on map 6 on page 78 is a probable source for material for 3-4 scenarios. The Schmidt battle I believe was done by WWB and he has a portion of it at least under a CMBO battle called Vossenack. Good map on page 342-343 Page 365-367 Company C, 1340th Engrs at the Kall Bridge. Page 374+ action at Kommerscheidt

Yes I have that book, some good scenario material in it.

Well when my technology makes a mistake I always blame society

Hi there Hans, I have long had an interest in French troops. Though "Grog" is a overstatement. "Senegalais" was the French generic term for black troops, and so they needn't actually be from Senegal. Black troops served in Senegalese regiments proper (RTS) but also in a variety of other forces, sometimes mixed with other "colours". You'll find the RTS proper on this informative page. Its in French but most words are such you use as loanwords in English. The senegalese were numerous enough, and employed in such a variety of duties, as to present a very heterogenous picture (spelling?). Some regiments, such as 24th, 7th and others, were outright legendary, acquiring their fame in WWI (Chemin des Dames) and retaining very high standards in WWII. The French held them in very high regard indeed, and some were permanently stationed in France. Others still were mere barefoot, halftrained colonial police forces. So it would all boil down to regiment. Of course, in France 1940 you'd only find Senegalese that formed part of either the Colonial army, or the North African army. Both being bodies of professional long-term soldiers, they displayed quite another quality than the average French conscript or reserve units. We actually see these guys - I mean colonial forces black or white - in most successful undertakings made by the French in 1940. Come to think of it, throughout the war, and in the postwar era as well. The Senegalese served in the Colonial forces, but were included in the French North African army as well, for practical reasons. The Colonial army had the same function as marines have (and are now called marines) and consisted of only 3 regular divisions, plus numerous garrisons. The North African army included the Foreign Legion, Spahis, Chasseurs d'Afrique et cetera and could form 12 regular divisions, again plus garrisons and Sahara companies. The regular elements of both armies were considered first rate troops. Generally speaking the French (much like the British I find) tended to hold in highest regard those that had given them a beating most recently. In WWII these were the berber and the Tonkinese. Berber tribesmen served in the North African army and appeared primarily in Moroccan units, but also in Algerian and, later on, Tunisian. Also just like the British, they trusted to 100% only minority groups dependent on them, such as said Berbers, and indeed Khmers and Senegalese etc. Both factors limited their scope. It being a fave topic, I can babble on forever here. But you were actually only interested in the Senegalese right? Cheerio Dandelion Edited: So many typos and outright rotten English that even I was embarrassed. </font>

We have any French Colonial troop Grog out there! Can someone give me an idea of the relative rating of the various French colonial troops? ie in the British Empire the Gurkhas and Sikhs were highly regarded followed by the Baluchis, Pathans etc. Were do the Senegalese fit into the French frame work? This is for a 23 May 1940 attack by the Senegalese on the Amiens bridgehead at Dury/Vers-sur-Selles/St.Fuscien Thanks Hans

We have any French Colonial troop Grog out there! Can someone give me an idea of the relative rating of the various French colonial troops? ie in the British Empire the Gurkhas and Sikhs were highly regarded followed by the Baluchis, Pathans etc. Were do the Senegalese fit into the French frame work? This is for a 23 May 1940 attack by the Senegalese on the Amiens bridgehead at Dury/Vers-sur-Selles/St.Fuscien Thanks Hans

We have any French Colonial troop Grog out there! Can someone give me an idea of the relative rating of the various French colonial troops? ie in the British Empire the Gurkhas and Sikhs were highly regarded followed by the Baluchis, Pathans etc. Were do the Senegalese fit into the French frame work? This is for a 23 May 1940 attack by the Senegalese on the Amiens bridgehead at Dury/Vers-sur-Selles/St.Fuscien Thanks Hans

We have any French Colonial troop Grog out there! Can someone give me an idea of the relative rating of the various French colonial troops? ie in the British Empire the Gurkhas and Sikhs were highly regarded followed by the Baluchis, Pathans etc. Were do the Senegalese fit into the French frame work? This is for a 23 May 1940 attack by the Senegalese on the Amiens bridgehead at Dury/Vers-sur-Selles/St.Fuscien Thanks Hans

We have any French Colonial troop Grog out there! Can someone give me an idea of the relative rating of the various French colonial troops? ie in the British Empire the Gurkhas and Sikhs were highly regarded followed by the Baluchis, Pathans etc. Were do the Senegalese fit into the French frame work? This is for a 23 May 1940 attack by the Senegalese on the Amiens bridgehead at Dury/Vers-sur-Selles/St.Fuscien Thanks Hans

We have any French Colonial troop Grog out there! Can someone give me an idea of the relative rating of the various French colonial troops? ie in the British Empire the Gurkhas and Sikhs were highly regarded followed by the Baluchis, Pathans etc. Were do the Senegalese fit into the French frame work? This is for a 23 May 1940 attack by the Senegalese on the Amiens bridgehead at Dury/Vers-sur-Selles/St.Fuscien Thanks Hans

Thanks, I promote you from # 1091 to 1089