I have to admit to being one of the people who “lit the fuse” on that whole explosion, although I had lost interest in that discussion before the “heavy hitters” got involved. It all started when the Talonsoft board became crammed with people saying that the infantry in the game were too powerful and they felt that the AT rating should have been lowered from a 5 to something less, like a 1 or a 2. After much heated discussion (with me more or less defending the data in the game since nobody had produced any contradictory evidence from published sources) I suggested that perhaps the entire combat routines were flawed and that it was not just focused on the infantry ratings. I created a test scenario were I had 3 pure tank units, 3 pure infantry units, and 3 mixed units of tanks and infantry which each had 100 items in them (either tanks, infantry or 50/50). I then put those nine units up against various “pure” and mixed units. One match up was 100 88mm AA guns vs 100 Matildas, another was 50 T 34s and 50 Rifle Squads vs 100 75mm AT guns. Anyway, I put the results on the board without comment and let the board review my data. Others began doing their own tests. If I remember correctly, someone later took 100 HMG vs 100 Tigers and posted his results. People then began using more and more ridiculous examples which eventually turned into the now infamous Jeeps vs Tigers battle. My main thing was to stress that the game results should be compared to “real” battlefield results that can be quantified, not just how it ‘feels’ to the average grognard. After stressing that numerous times, the heavy hitters really started getting involved as someone from one of the websites recreated the battle of … I believe it was Arras? … and compared the game results to the real results. Wow, what a discussion that was.