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Ok, just noticed that in Dec 43' half my Standard U.S. Squads are armed with 2x B.A.R's, instead of one that it's suppose to have...I didn't expect this many B.A.R.s until around Normandy (at the earliest)...It was't until Sept-Oct 44' when standard Squads where issued 2x B.A.R.s till end of War.

I guess were having B.A.R.s giving out like Candy from beginning of War to End :-(

Please, BF, Tear Down these B.A.R.s...

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1 hour ago, Holman said:

Does this reflect the fact that frontline squads would scrounge every BAR they could regardless of TO&E?

Sounds like it. And not only BARs. Any kind of equipment that they thought might offer some kind of advantage, whether in firepower or comfort got picked up and lugged around...at least until they got tired of the weight.

Michael

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In general, during WWII for US forces there were a lot of unofficial TO&E alterations in the field. BARs were prised because they have the squad more firepower, and after coming up against so many Germans with MGs, they could use all the extra firepower they could get. 

Another popular change was discarding the Springfield rifle (standard issue to a designated marksman in every squad) for a regular M1. Many preferred the higher rate of fire and adaptability of the semi automatic rifle over the Springfield. This is actually something I wish was more prevalent in CM, as I view the Springfield as being utterly useless. In a firefight I want as many rifles firing as possible. A precision weapon just reduces the firepower of the squad. Just my opinion. 

Finally, many officers and other soldiers issued the M1 carbine would discard it for an M1. Maj Winters from Band of Brothers is an example of this. Per the airborne TO&E he should have had a carbine, but he used an M1 instead. This was for a few reasons, one being that many did not like the carbine due to performance issues (it was basically a pistol with a stock, not the greatest in a firefight) and because officers didn't want to advertise their importance by looking differently than everyone else. 

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39 minutes ago, IICptMillerII said:

Another popular change was discarding the Springfield rifle (standard issue to a designated marksman in every squad) for a regular M1. Many preferred the higher rate of fire and adaptability of the semi automatic rifle over the Springfield.

As was eventually discovered, the M1 also made a better sniper weapon as long as it was in good shape. The reason being, with the bolt action weapon after every shot the firer has to work the bolt and motion attracts the eye, ergo it gives the shooters position away just that quicker.

39 minutes ago, IICptMillerII said:

Finally, many officers and other soldiers issued the M1 carbine would discard it for an M1. Maj Winters from Band of Brothers is an example of this. Per the airborne TO&E he should have had a carbine, but he used an M1 instead.

General James Gavin of the 82nd. Airborne also carried an M1. I suspect his rationale was that if he was going to shoot someone, he wanted to be sure they stayed down.

Michael

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1 minute ago, DougPhresh said:

Best example of this is the endless debate over Airborne BARs. Almost any wargame forum or historical discussion board has a thread full of debate on the question of did U.S Paras have BARs before the Bulge.

Individually, absolutely. There are plenty of personal stories out there of airborne infantrymen grabbing BARs in Normandy after the gliders landed with the glider Infantry and supplies. However I'm sure there could be a raging debate over how official the unofficial TO&E changes were in reality. 

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