Sequoia Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Notice I didn't call it Combat Mission:Normandy. Anyway shall we discuss the likelyhood of having each of the following on map as direct fire units in the game? Yes I know mortars are never really direct fire. Some guesses 60mm mortars- 100% Antitank guns-up to 88 and 90mm 100% 81mm mortars-95% 4.2" and 120mm mortars 10%? 75mm inf gun-99 % 105mm how 50% ? 150 mm inf gun? 75%? 150/155 mm how 10%? others? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 I think come the Commonwealth the 25 pounder is absolutely guaranteed a spot. The M3 US 37mm ATG will be interesting. Completely irrelevant as a weapons system at this time, it seems to have made it to Normandy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil stanbridge Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Will the 25 pounder feature in the game or will it appear in the commonwealth module? Also, what about recoiless rifles? Didn't they make an appearance in Normandy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted October 8, 2010 Author Share Posted October 8, 2010 I'm sure the 25lber won't appear until the Commonwealth module providing they include large calibre on map artillery. I'm giving my guess as to chance of each weapon being included. I think the recoilless rifles weren't introduced into the US army until early 1945, but the German airborne had them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetori Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Well I'd expect that at least the mechanized variants of large caliber weapon-systems to be represented. I'd be disappointed if they aren't. Further along the expansion-tree I most certainly expect to see them (as it wasn't uncommon for arty to be used in a direct fire role), especially during hard city fights in the east. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil stanbridge Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 I think the recoilless rifles weren't introduced into the US army until early 1945, but the German airborne had them. Interesting. I didn't know much about it so I've just had a quick browse. The US recoiless was produced in number in early 1945, but the development started in 1943. I'd say that's a relatively long time from development to production wouldn't you? Especially considering the German tech already existed. What made me think about it - I was watching an episode of Band of Brothers, and I remember seeing the German recoiless rifle used in a direct fire role. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 What made me think about it - I was watching an episode of Band of Brothers, and I remember seeing the German recoiless rifle used in a direct fire role. Is that the "Carentan" episode? If so, what you were looking at was not an RR. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 That was a 37mm PAK 36 with a Stielgranate, a riflegrenade writ large. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapHappy Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 The RR in the Wehrmacht was primarily used by mountain troops, was it not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 The RR in the Wehrmacht was primarily used by mountain troops, was it not? All I've read says that it was primarily used by paratroops, who were the ones to develop it. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AslakH Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 All I've read says that it was primarily used by paratroops, who were the ones to develop it. Michael Yep. He's speaking the truth. Primarily Fallschirmjägers that used those weapons. No more "I saw a scene from A bridge too far, and.. durr hurr..". Speaking of untraditional guns: I like the PAW 600. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil stanbridge Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 That was a 37mm PAK 36 with a Stielgranate, a riflegrenade writ large. I stand corrected. Yes, it's a small gun with a large warhead. Looks a bit odd doesn't it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Speaking of untraditional guns: I like the PAW 600. Interesting weapon. I wonder if anything like it was built after the war. I know several armies fielded low-velocity guns utilizing hollow-charge ammo, but I haven't heard of one operating on this principle. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawomi Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 more untraditional stuff: Source: Stevens, Henry: Hitler's Suppressed and Still-Secret Weapons, Science and Technology, Adventures Unlimited Press, Kempton 2007, p.33 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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